International ebay bidders can blow chunks sometimes.

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International ebay bidders can blow chunks sometimes.

So this douche bids on my item then after like 5 messages back and forth regarding shipping of the cage with this pcb set and the extra cost yada yada I get the thing packed and then I get yet another message saying this.

"Hello, oh i wanted the cage but i dont have the money to pay extra shipping. I paid you paypal, please help me, in declaration of post office please put GIFT and description only put USED OLD GAME ATARI and value put low value US$10 please do this because the high tax of Brazil 60% (price of item more price of shipping) please do this, ok, aswer me, thanks"

So this clown could have easily asked me this before even bidding but weasels it in after paying. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The kicker is that this board went for cheap and even if they paid 60% extra it was still a good deal. I won't set myself up for a screw job so I refunded his cash and
blocked the clown and all of Brazil for good measure. Ass munches! :mad:
 
I don't know but I would not doubt it. Now look at the next message after I lay it on him that I will not do that. I could give a rats ass what the feedback rating is for the buyer since they can't get a negative. What a joke.

Me: Since I have to state the value of the item for seller protection purposes I cannot comply with that request. If you do not want the board in that case I will refund the money.
Regards
~eric

The other guy:
Hello i understand you, i have 840 points feedback every itens the seller do this to me, but ok no problem, so sorry i dont have the money to pay 60% of tax (price of shipping more price of item), then if dont cant refund me, thanks

Isn't there a scam going around with international bidders and the "gift" deceleration?
 
I won't ship International... period. Well, I may be convinced to ship to Canada by a long time KLOVian but anywhere else is a no-go.

There are just too many ways to get screwed.
 
It's a pita for sure with having to deal with the form and the extra wait for it to be processed but you get more exposure. I have never had any issues with it in the past. This is actually the first time anyone has asked me something like this. The reason I reacted harshly though was because I have heard bad things about Brazil in particular so now that whole country is done because of that one guy. Next please. :D

I won't ship International... period. Well, I may be convinced to ship to Canada by a long time KLOVian but anywhere else is a no-go.

There are just too many ways to get screwed.
 
Registering something as a gift can backfire on you. The item can get hung up in customs and they can send a bill for the back taxes and penalty to you.

I will ship to Canada if the buyer is polite about it. But that is it.

A number of years ago I shippped a hardware/software product to Europe (Germany, IIRC). It got hung up in customs. The buyer paid with an international money order. After a month in customs, he asked for a refund. I contacted German customs and they said they would ship it back for the $45 shipping cost. I refunded the buyer's money, paid the $45 and when the box arrived, the equipment had been removed and my bank informed me that the money order had been forged. It was for $5 and not $500, so they deducted $495 out of my account and just for good measure bounced 3 checks with $15 overdraft fees on each one. I had two "bad" check fees of $25 I had to pay out of pocket as well. So all together I was out $495 + $45 shipping + $45 return shipping + $45 in overdraft fees + $50 in bounced check fees, $680 total. I did try to file an insurance claim with the shipper, but they refused to pay, saying that I couldn't guarantee that the items were in the box when they picked it up.

So International Buyers can S*** My D***.

ken

PS: I apologize in advance for anyone who was offended by my last sentance.
 
Back when I used to still sell things on eBay, I would put something in the text along the lines of: "bidders from foreign countries must pay an addtional $20 'hassle fee'. And yes, Canada is a foreign country."

I caught a lot of flack for that from people outside the country but I would just tell them that if they don't like the terms then please don't bid. It saved a LOT of headaches.
 
I don't consider it a $20 hassle but when idiots bid on your crap then expect me to mark it as a worthless gift it is a hassle. I don't want to alienate international bidders though. I just can't believe how much of a weasel this guy was, and all the harping about not being able to afford 60% tax. I mean wtf are you buying arcade junk for if you cannot afford it? What a tool. End rant. :D

Back when I used to still sell things on eBay, I would put something in the text along the lines of: "bidders from foreign countries must pay an addtional $20 'hassle fee'. And yes, Canada is a foreign country."

I caught a lot of flack for that from people outside the country but I would just tell them that if they don't like the terms then please don't bid. It saved a LOT of headaches.
 
Yeah, I know what you mean. I didn't actually charge the people the $20 either unless they truly were a pain in the butt. But it did greatly reduce the number of bidders from out of the states. I just really dislike filling out paperwork. If it was computerized I'd have no problem with it.
 
So this douche bids on my item then after like 5 messages back and forth regarding shipping of the cage with this pcb set and the extra cost yada yada I get the thing packed and then I get yet another message saying this.

"Hello, oh i wanted the cage but i dont have the money to pay extra shipping. I paid you paypal, please help me, in declaration of post office please put GIFT and description only put USED OLD GAME ATARI and value put low value US$10 please do this because the high tax of Brazil 60% (price of item more price of shipping) please do this, ok, aswer me, thanks"

So this clown could have easily asked me this before even bidding but weasels it in after paying. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The kicker is that this board went for cheap and even if they paid 60% extra it was still a good deal. I won't set myself up for a screw job so I refunded his cash and
blocked the clown and all of Brazil for good measure. Ass munches! :mad:

Good call. Faking values on customs forms is generally illegal. I'm unclear how many people they prosecute (probably only if you get caught doing something else as well), but you don't want to be the guy they decide to make an example out of. I've actually put in my buyer instructions (that they see right up front) that I won't falsify customs values.

I can't blame people for wanting to get out of paying some of the stupid taxes that exist in the world, but I'm sure as hell not gonna get in trouble to help them do it.
 
I use PayPal shipping, and generating customs forms couldn't be easier. The only thing to fill out is the value of each item, and its individual weight.

Sign all four forms, pop them in a clear adhesive envelope (provided free by the Post Office) and its done.

I've shipped everything from vector monitors to jukeboxes all over the world, and never had a problem. The way I see it, customers are too valuable to lose, and I'll do everything possible to get and keep them. One final thought- for some items like certain juke parts and pcbs, international buyers will pay a premium due to the scaricity in their own country and exchange rates. Blocking those buyers is missing out on 90% of the market for those specific items.
 
I've shipped many places over the world both on a personal and business level the customs forms take about 30 seconds of my time.

Registering something as a gift can backfire on you. The item can get hung up in customs and they can send a bill for the back taxes and penalty to you.

I have never had this problem or had any of the sellers I've dealt with voice this as a concern, odd. Perhaps it has something to do with the declared value ?
 
I've shipped many places over the world both on a personal and business level the customs forms take about 30 seconds of my time.



I have never had this problem or had any of the sellers I've dealt with voice this as a concern, odd. Perhaps it has something to do with the declared value ?

Yea, it's not the 'marking as a gift', it's the 'lying about the value' that's a big deal. In general, governments are concerned about getting their proper tributes - if you try to fake them out, and they catch you, it's generally bad for you.
 
The way I see it, customers are too valuable to lose, and I'll do everything possible to get and keep them. One final thought- for some items like certain juke parts and pcbs, international buyers will pay a premium due to the scaricity in their own country and exchange rates. Blocking those buyers is missing out on 90% of the market for those specific items.

I think I heard this somewhere:

GOOD customers are too valuable to lose. BAD customers are too expensive to keep.

I agree about international buyers on some stuff, but you need to be careful to insure and track everything - there's no end to the scams some folk will pull.
 
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