I do believe turbo outrun uses the same gears. I believe the only difference in the turbo outrun control panel was the addition of the turbo button on the shifter.
Interest check: Outrun Gears made in brass - full set
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First off, I appreciate your doing this. If I had an Outrun, I'd be looking for this, and would likely buy a set. But I don't.
I wonder why they made the gears out of plastic in the first place...
Which makes me wonder ...what is directly underneath or around these gears? I know gears wear and some times drop / throw slivers of metal. Is there anything inside the game below these gears (or in the "spray zone" of metal) we would need to protect with some sort of deflector to avoid problems / shorts?
It may have just been cost / profit that drove the plastic decision, but as challenging as short circuit damage can be on boards, I figured I'd ask.
I wonder why they made the gears out of plastic in the first place...
Which makes me wonder ...what is directly underneath or around these gears? I know gears wear and some times drop / throw slivers of metal. Is there anything inside the game below these gears (or in the "spray zone" of metal) we would need to protect with some sort of deflector to avoid problems / shorts?
It may have just been cost / profit that drove the plastic decision, but as challenging as short circuit damage can be on boards, I figured I'd ask.
That's a good question. The game boards and power supply are not directly below the control panel in the upright cabinet. I don't know about other cabinet styles, but the UR has all the game boards mounted on the back door. The power supply, transformer, and audio amp PCB are mounted in the base of the cabinet, but towards the rear of the cabinet.
Since the control panel uses a vibration feedback on the steering wheel, the entire control panel assembly sits on a metal pan of sorts. The gears themselves mount inside a u-shaped box mounted to the pan. This should easily contain any debris created from the wear of the gears.
I would recommend that the replacement gears be lightly lubricated to reduce wear.
The original gears were a composite design with a machined brass center that was over-molded with the plastic gear. I believe the primary failure is due to the different thermal expansion rates of the brass and plastic. The plastic develops cracks at specific places where the stresses from expansion and contraction would be concentrated. I now have a few NOS and used gears that have developed cracks in the same locations. I also have a couple of NOS gears that have not started cracking yet. I suspect the difference is the storage conditions since the parts came from different sources.
It's hard to know exactly why the original gears were made that way. I'm sure cost, product life cycle, and maintenance requirements were all factors in the decision.
seems like a worthy part to have on hand for jic. put me down for a set.
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Thanks. Provided people keep the metal pan in place, it should be good then.
I suspect it would be cost at that point. Brass is more expensive than plastic with a brass insert, notably when making thousands.
FYI, for a comparison of a few lubricants for metal gears and the moving pan, take a look at my restoration thread here...
OutRun upright restoration
INTRODUCTION I got this from a fellow KLOVer without a PCB in May 2017 on my way to Allentown’s Pinfest. The sideart was damaged and had a bad discoloration from a Turbo Outrun sticker that had been removed. I was lucky that the machine still had the gas pedal. The dash had some pieces broken...
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Update:
The gear is now turning. We are waiting on first article so David can do a real world test fit/function in his Outrun that he has in his open to the public arcade.
If they pass, production starts.
The gear is now turning. We are waiting on first article so David can do a real world test fit/function in his Outrun that he has in his open to the public arcade.
If they pass, production starts.
Awesome. All the gears in these things seem to get major abuse and the plastic breaks. This will be awesome for the Outrun cab owners. Thanks for doing this.
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Gears are in production.
While I'm happy with the amount that are potentially pre-sold, I'm not having as many sets made as initially thought.
Once the gears are in my possession, presale is over and they will be available on my site for a little bit more.
PM or reply to this post if you want a set.
While I'm happy with the amount that are potentially pre-sold, I'm not having as many sets made as initially thought.
Once the gears are in my possession, presale is over and they will be available on my site for a little bit more.
PM or reply to this post if you want a set.
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Very interested, would want 2 sets
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still waiting on our samples so Dave can QC and test them in his machine......
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I should have the sample pieces on Wednesday and I'll send them off to Dave same or next day for real world testing. If all goes well, I should have the the full production run by end of May.
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Sample pieces arrived today. I'm sending them off to Dave tomorrow for testing/QC.
I'm including set screws with each gear, 2 per gear.
Gears will be coated in a light oil so they can be stored safely until needed.
the whole set weighs about 1.5 pounds. So to make shipping easier, I might just charge a flat rate of $10 for priority regardless of how many sets you bought.
Canada and UK orders will be more.
I'm including set screws with each gear, 2 per gear.
Gears will be coated in a light oil so they can be stored safely until needed.
the whole set weighs about 1.5 pounds. So to make shipping easier, I might just charge a flat rate of $10 for priority regardless of how many sets you bought.
Canada and UK orders will be more.
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Nice work, look's great
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Thanks but Dave gets all the credit. He did the CAD drawings and other technical stuff.
I'm just the finance and distribution guy.
I'm just the finance and distribution guy.
