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Will collectors consider JAMMA games to be grails? Will they get pissed for us "restoring" to the original game things like Final Fight, Street Fighter 2, Mickey Mouse Tetris, Tekken, Golden Tee or Big Buck Hunter.
 
they are already grails for a multitude of people, and well deserved as it is much harder to find many of them with complete art than it is to find dedicated classics.
 
Yes they will and they already do. I have been trying to tell people to stop deconverting common games with good or rare kits in them for years, but it has all fallen on deaf ears.

Although Mickey Mouse Tetris is Japanese and I doubt the Bubba type Huntin' games will ever be much of a grail for anyone.

Will collectors consider JAMMA games to be grails? Will they get pissed for us "restoring" to the original game things like Final Fight, Street Fighter 2, Mickey Mouse Tetris, Tekken, Golden Tee or Big Buck Hunter.
 
The dedicated ones, sure. They actually are already more valuable, in a lot of cases. A dedicated TMNT is worth as much as a nice Vector game, pretty much. And for every rare vintage game like, Red Baron or something... there's something like a dedicated Moonwalker that's worth just as much or more.

A few of the real classics though have made the jump. Ms. Pac-Man, and Donkey Kong get infinte, timeless respect even from the Gen X'ers and keep their value.
 
Count me in that group that wants these, space harrier is the grail, outrun is next and then go from there. Ive had to pass on a couple of nice outrun cabs by me because the kids need presents more than I need another game right now. Come spring watch out.
 
FWIW, although their vintage coincides pretty well with the beginning of the JAMMA-era... neither Space Harrier nor OutRun are JAMMA.

Very true, I was thinking more along the silver age of arcades when I said this (85-94). I do want a golden tee and a street fighter as well, but those are put off till I get my basement finished.
 
Yeah. Daytona USA was my grail and I finally got some. I love Jamma shit. All of my stuff is Jamma. LionsArcade said, I totally respect the true classics. Pac Man, Donkey Kong, etc are timeless and always welcome in any arcade imo.

I sometimes get pissed when I see a game I love, thats hard to get, or really expensive that is retrofitted or whatever. Seeing some crap game in a dedicated Simpsons cab always gets the "WTF?!?"
 
Yeah. Daytona USA was my grail and I finally got some. I love Jamma shit. All of my stuff is Jamma. LionsArcade said, I totally respect the true classics. Pac Man, Donkey Kong, etc are timeless and always welcome in any arcade imo.

I sometimes get pissed when I see a game I love, thats hard to get, or really expensive that is retrofitted or whatever. Seeing some crap game in a dedicated Simpsons cab always gets the "WTF?!?"

Totally want a Daytona. And I think it is age thing I'm 34 so 84-85 is when I started to be able to go to arcades and that's really when I remember playing them. Now my friend who got me into collecting is 42 and he is all about the golden age. Matter of fact the running joke is his arcade will be 84 and older and mine will be 85 and newer.
 
I've been saying it for 5 years. Unfortunately the economy blockaded my foresight and stockpile. I was lucky if I got rid of a Turtles In Time PCBs for over 35 dollars.
 
Hard to say what the market will want.

What drives the classics (in my opinion) is that we played them. There is a nostalgia angle that is hard to fight, almost like the "war buddy" angle.

So, I figure if you played Jamma games, you might have the same desire to own what gave you such a great challenge or pleasure, and Jammas could eventually become grail games, as they continue to grow in demand.

I agree with the conversions - I don't like them, one bit. It reminds me of "The Invasion of the Body Snatchers," except in this case, it's the "Invasion of the Housing Snatchers," where innocent games are sacrificed for some cheap crap that will become a grail for few, if any souls.
 
I agree with the conversions - I don't like them, one bit. It reminds me of "The Invasion of the Body Snatchers," except in this case, it's the "Invasion of the Housing Snatchers," where innocent games are sacrificed for some cheap crap that will become a grail for few, if any souls.

Maybe... but if you look at Conversions, you also see that the operator was able to get a non earning game back out on route so he could feed his kids. I'd rather have a converted cab than a cab that was hauled to the dump in 1987.
 
Jamma is hot. I've been looking at SF and MK boards and they have more than double in the last 3 years. These boards were around $25. You used to be able to pick a few CPS2 fighting games for cheap. Not anymore. KI was $150. now well over $200.
 
Try to find a CPS1 Punisher or Cadillacs and Dinosaurs board or how about a Progear full Kit for well over $ 1000,-
Older Toaplan or Raizing loose boards go for crazy money already, a Batrider B PCB went up from $ 65,- to $ 400,- in just four years .
 
The dedicated ones, sure. They actually are already more valuable, in a lot of cases. A dedicated TMNT is worth as much as a nice Vector game, pretty much. And for every rare vintage game like, Red Baron or something... there's something like a dedicated Moonwalker that's worth just as much or more.

A few of the real classics though have made the jump. Ms. Pac-Man, and Donkey Kong get infinte, timeless respect even from the Gen X'ers and keep their value.


Moonwalker is my Grail and it was the first game that I ever Bought.

-Jake
 
Will collectors consider JAMMA games to be grails?

Why not? IMO the "Grail game" someone gets has nothing to do with rarity, but it is the one game / style of cab that resonates most strongly from their childhood.

Mine is my Ms Pac-man cocktail. It's not rare by any stretch, but it is an original and every time I sit down I remember the summers at the lake, and the cheap ass burgers and dogs at "top dog" while I played Ms Pacman and Skee ball.
 
Why not? IMO the "Grail game" someone gets has nothing to do with rarity, but it is the one game / style of cab that resonates most strongly from their childhood.

Mine is my Ms Pac-man cocktail. It's not rare by any stretch, but it is an original and every time I sit down I remember the summers at the lake, and the cheap ass burgers and dogs at "top dog" while I played Ms Pacman and Skee ball.

This is where you lose a lot of people.

I'll admit to having used the term "grail" in the past to describe a few things, but the more you look at a grail, the more you realize that the Holy Grail is a one off item that is truly rare.

In Indiana Jones just think... if the grail was as described, the German guy would never have decomposed. It was the one that he thought was the grail.


Wait... that's a whole other argument...
 
This is where you lose a lot of people.

I'll admit to having used the term "grail" in the past to describe a few things, but the more you look at a grail, the more you realize that the Holy Grail is a one off item that is truly rare.

So by this definition you'd have most of the collectors here who can't or don't want a "grail game" as all the games they loved as a kid happened to be common.

I think of it more like City Slicker's meaning of life. It's "1 thing" and that's different to everyone. To me it's a totem of a childhood memory, and it's the one game you seek out the most because it has the most memories / nostalgia associated with it.
 
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