dbstallman
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Last week I picked up a non-working PGM mainboard off Ebay. The board had color issues most of the time. In test mode, the colorbars would display correctly, but for almost all of the gameplay everything would be tinted yellow.
Here is a photo of the video from the auction :
The RAM test failed on RAM 5, so I knew (kind of) where to start..... I just couldn't find any documentation about where RAM 5 was on the PCB. Looking around in the MAME driver and through a thread started by XianXi at neo-geo.com (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?220574-PGM-Tech-Question) I was able to determine that the video RAM was the three SOJ chips in this area :
In the neo-geo.com thread it was speculated that U21 and U22 were the main video RAM with U30 being for the pallette (this picture is from after I replaced U30, originally it was also a Winbond W24257AJ-8N) so I started by replacing it with a spare SOJ RAM I harvested from a dead Namco System 12 PCB.
I booted the board into test mode while the chip was off to see if it was really RAM 5, but the picture wouldn't reliably display. From what I could make out, it is probably RAM 2. After replacing the RAM there was no difference in the display and test mode still failed on RAM 5. Since the board was silkscreened for a 256K RAM in that position, I decided to just leave it there even though it was larger than the old RAM.
Next I removed U21 and fired the board up with the RAM from U30 pressed into place (I know, not reliable) and it did pass the RAM test all the way through RAM 5! I figured I had it solved and soldered the chip in place.
Unfortunately when I powered it back up RAM 5 failed the test again. That left only U22, so I pulled it and did another test with the RAM off the board. This time I was able to clearly see all the graphics and the test mode passed RAM 5 again. Hopefull, I soldered the RAM from U21 in and fired it back up.. This time it was a complete success! The test mode passes all RAM tests and the gameplay is perfect!
Here is what I think we can learn from this : RAM 5 is both of the chips at U21 and U22. XianXi had mentioned in the other thread that the RAM was mapped together in a rather unusal way and I suspect this is the result of that. You guys can correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, I hope this helps someone else since there seems to be very little info on the net about this system.
Brian.
Edit : I don't know how I managed to put a "Thumbs Down" icon in the title... If a moderator could remove or change that to a smiley or something I would appreciate it.
Here is a photo of the video from the auction :
The RAM test failed on RAM 5, so I knew (kind of) where to start..... I just couldn't find any documentation about where RAM 5 was on the PCB. Looking around in the MAME driver and through a thread started by XianXi at neo-geo.com (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?220574-PGM-Tech-Question) I was able to determine that the video RAM was the three SOJ chips in this area :
In the neo-geo.com thread it was speculated that U21 and U22 were the main video RAM with U30 being for the pallette (this picture is from after I replaced U30, originally it was also a Winbond W24257AJ-8N) so I started by replacing it with a spare SOJ RAM I harvested from a dead Namco System 12 PCB.
I booted the board into test mode while the chip was off to see if it was really RAM 5, but the picture wouldn't reliably display. From what I could make out, it is probably RAM 2. After replacing the RAM there was no difference in the display and test mode still failed on RAM 5. Since the board was silkscreened for a 256K RAM in that position, I decided to just leave it there even though it was larger than the old RAM.
Next I removed U21 and fired the board up with the RAM from U30 pressed into place (I know, not reliable) and it did pass the RAM test all the way through RAM 5! I figured I had it solved and soldered the chip in place.
Unfortunately when I powered it back up RAM 5 failed the test again. That left only U22, so I pulled it and did another test with the RAM off the board. This time I was able to clearly see all the graphics and the test mode passed RAM 5 again. Hopefull, I soldered the RAM from U21 in and fired it back up.. This time it was a complete success! The test mode passes all RAM tests and the gameplay is perfect!
Here is what I think we can learn from this : RAM 5 is both of the chips at U21 and U22. XianXi had mentioned in the other thread that the RAM was mapped together in a rather unusal way and I suspect this is the result of that. You guys can correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, I hope this helps someone else since there seems to be very little info on the net about this system.
Brian.
Edit : I don't know how I managed to put a "Thumbs Down" icon in the title... If a moderator could remove or change that to a smiley or something I would appreciate it.
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