ICE Ice Cold Beer missing rom and unresponsive

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Just picked up an ICB. It's not the Taito version that I wanted, but it's the one that presented itself. So I've been looking through the archives and there isn't much info on the ICE machines.

When I boot my machine, the first 14 segment LED in the Bonus box lights all 14 segments, the right motor runs constantly up, and the left either moves randomly down or not at all. No button or switch inputs change anything. I'm guessing my board is toast, but maybe someone has an idea?

I noticed the manual calls for a music rom in U17, but mine is empty. Were these condensed down in later versions? If not, does anybody have that data that they could send to me?
 

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First, I have zero experience with the ICE version of this. A friend had a Taito version a while back. Doing a small bit of searching brought up some bits of info, and jogged a bit of my memory.

There's a quick diagnostic test on startup. I imagine the motors are both supposed to home to the bottom, where they will trip a switch ( or an opto), if the motor doesn't home, it probably won't start the game. The fact that one of your motors is going up instead of down makes me think that the wiring is probably backwards. Double check this and see if that helps.

No idea on the music rom, though.
 
I thought that might have been an issue, but tripping the stop switches by hand (top, bottom, or both) does nothing to silence the motor.
 
Might be a bad switch. Did you test it with a meter? If the switch is ok, I'd lean toward a bad component (transistor driving the motor maybe, follow the line back) or a programming error.

http://www.icegame.com/p-17028-main-pcb-ice-cold-beer.aspx

This shows the pcb without the music rom, so that's probably good....

Maybe give their tech support a call tomorrow, or an email tonight and see if they can point you in the right direction.


Their phone is 716.759.0360 ask for tech support.
or email at [email protected]
 
According to the guy I bought from, they're brand new switches, but I'll verify tomorrow. Interesting that the pic there shows the same rom missing despite the info in the manual. Maybe I have been barking up the wrong tree. Thanks for that image.

Also interesting that they still sell that board. According to the seller, he called ICE and they said they don't support it anymore, so no help available. I'll have a look at it a little more, but if they have that board in stock, I might just order it. Even after dropping $200 on a new board, I'd have a working ICB for around $500 all in... I'll take that.
 
When I got mine a few years ago they didn't have the boards. One weird common issue is the ribbon cable between the motherboard and the scoreboard. I ended up buying a pack of them off ebay as the connector is a standard one.

Mine was throwing errors when its cable messed up.

If you remind me later in the week I can take a picture of mine's mainboard and you can see if yours is missing any chips.
 
Quick update to the saga: ICE does infact no longer support this. The board, despite being available for purchase on their website, isn't stocked anymore. I was notified of this by email 24 hours after purchasing. Hooray. Back to banging my head against this thing until I can find a problem.
 
So the motor drivers live on the "score" board and the board behaves exactly the same whether I have the main board ribbon connected or not. The only way to silence the motors is to pull the power to the score board. I also noticed the plcc chip on the score board gets pretty hot. I'm starting to suspect that to be my problem
 
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