I need a wg6100 tube, what are my options?

[mgkastra]

Drop-in fit for @shilmover's XY kit, which IIRC has the same yoke pinout as a 6100.

Shilmover kit just has pins so it would fit any neck but he made a b&k cr-23 style neck board for it. Are you saying that television has the same neck style as a cr-23 or for the kind that would fit a 6100 100° neck?

 

[jawhn]

Post some pics of the necks. Are any a CR20?

I did a little while back in the tube swap thread, I think? They are all SUPER weird. Not a standard neck of any sort.

 

[jawhn]

Post some pics of the necks. Are any a CR20?

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so I wonder if the tubes pinout is the same but the plastic socket adapter is different? I hadn't thought of the adapter angle. That's not a bad suggestion. I did find a youtube video where a guy took one of those sets apart. The high voltage clip was at 3 o'clock on the tube instead of 12...

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Post 151 is where I had some pics.

 

[cavnex]

Searching For People with CONFIRMED tube swaps!

so I wonder if the tubes pinout is the same but the plastic socket adapter is different? I hadn't thought of the adapter angle. That's not a bad suggestion. I did find a youtube video where a guy took one of those sets apart. The high voltage clip was at 3 o'clock on the tube instead of 12...

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Post 151 is where I had some pics.

The tubes in 151 and 152 look like CR-20s to me.

 

[ArcadeTechGW]

There is also this thread about making an adapter.

CR20 Tubes for WG6100 use, lets get an adapter made, co-op

CR20 Tubes for WG6100 use, lets get an adapter made, co-op I would like to help out CR20 tube owners If someone is willing to send me their CR20 neck board /connector You will receive a free CR Changer with your neck connector attached to it, and returned free to you as a reward I will make a...

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[ArcadeTechGW]

And then this thread:

Wells Gardner 6100 tube swap question

I found a tube that I think might work, but I am looking for a little help as it is a little different. I picked up an old Zenith TV with the following 100 degree tube in it: 19VJNP22 The B&K rejuvinator CR guide says it uses 6.3V at the heater and CR adapter 20. I know the normal WG tube...

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[Lamonsoff]

Searching For People with CONFIRMED tube swaps!

so I wonder if the tubes pinout is the same but the plastic socket adapter is different? I hadn't thought of the adapter angle. That's not a bad suggestion. I did find a youtube video where a guy took one of those sets apart. The high voltage clip was at 3 o'clock on the tube instead of 12...

forums.arcade-museum.com

Post 151 is where I had some pics.

Ya, those are CR20 necks. @dezbaz makes a conversion neck board for those. The only thing that I've found that if they have dual focus you need to add resistors to the focus line inside the HV cage. I'm still working on the exact number of 33M ohm resistors, as I'm currently having issues (unrelated) with the deflection board. Once I get it back and running I'll figure this out

 

[cysnake]

So, in cleaning up the chassis, I noticed the little add on board, is this the lv2000 mod? This one looks like it was don at the factory with an atari add on board

 

[ArcadeTechGW]

No. That's a different one. That is an Atari board.

 

[cysnake]

Does it do the same thing as the lv2000 mod? Im new to these kind of monitors, havent played around much with vectors.

 

[bakerhillpins]

Does it do the same thing as the lv2000 mod? Im new to these kind of monitors, havent played around much with vectors.

No that's an input protection board from Atari. Depending upon who you talk to they are, or are not, useful.

The LV2000 boards replace the the low voltage circuitry on the deflection board.

 

[andrewb]

Does it do the same thing as the lv2000 mod? Im new to these kind of monitors, havent played around much with vectors.

Bakerhill is right, that's the IPC board.

If you want to do yourself a favor, remove it. They're pieces of junk, and cause more problems than they fix. You're actually MORE likely to have issues with it than without it, as those legs really like to loosen up where they are soldered to the board, and your deflection system stands a good chance of frying when that happens. I've seen it on many deflection boards. I always remove them on all 6100 boardsets that I refurb.

To remove it, just desolder all of the legs, pull it off, and then replace the following four resistors:

- R600 and R700 (1.2k 1/4W)
- R606 (4.7k 1/2W)
- R706 (2.2k, 1/2W)

The result will be many fewer points of possible failure, and a more reliable board.

 

[cysnake]

Bakerhill is right, that's the IPC board.

If you want to do yourself a favor, remove it. They're pieces of junk, and cause more problems than they fix. You're actually MORE likely to have issues with it than without it, as those legs really like to loosen up where they are soldered to the board, and your deflection system stands a good chance of frying when that happens. I've seen it on many deflection boards. I always remove them on all 6100 boardsets that I refurb.

To remove it, just desolder all of the legs, pull it off, and then replace the following four resistors:

- R600 and R700 (1.2k 1/4W)
- R606 (4.7k 1/2W)
- R706 (2.2k, 1/2W)

The result will be many fewer points of possible failure, and a more reliable board.

Thanks Andrew! I will remove it.

 

[Tronic]

Searching For People with CONFIRMED tube swaps!

so I wonder if the tubes pinout is the same but the plastic socket adapter is different? I hadn't thought of the adapter angle. That's not a bad suggestion. I did find a youtube video where a guy took one of those sets apart. The high voltage clip was at 3 o'clock on the tube instead of 12...

forums.arcade-museum.com

Post 151 is where I had some pics.

You guys do know you can pull that white plastic part off the end of those 100 degree tubes and use the put the plastic from a 6100 on the end to make it fit CR-24 style plugs right? So long as you have the plastic peace that fit on the 6100 of the tube you are replacing still.

 

[cavnex]

You guys do know you can pull that white plastic part off the end of those 100 degree tubes and use the put the plastic from a 6100 on the end to make it fit CR-24 style plugs right? So long as you have the plastic peace that fit on the 6100 of the tube you are replacing still.

If it's a CR-23 tube, that'll be fine. If it's a CR-20, that won't work. Not the same pinout, has dual focus pins, etc.