How do you guys do it?

Does blackdick have that many games? Like 100 or something crazy? I have no idea since I ignore any thread with the phrase "I can has" or texting nonsense in the title. We showed up here about the same time so it would be fucked up if he did have 100 games.
 
I guess I could honestly say I'm jealous and confused and want answers.

Jealous - here's why:
I see guys that have been in this hobby half or less the time I've been in this hobby and they have a shit pot load of games and pins. Not junk or umpopular games but collectable and popular. Now long time collectors hell yes I can see that but am amazed at the new/newer members and how fast they've acquired games.

Confused - here's why:
I've been in the hobby for a mere (almost) 4 years. I have literally had a total of 15 games so far. I am now down to 9 and almost all have been restored. My wife and I make bank compared to a lot of people. We don't live outside of our means. We eat at home at leasts 5 times a week. Yes we have the "normal" bills such as house payment (which is very doable, two vehicle payments (very doable) and we don't owe anything to credit cards. Even with what we have for money theres no way in hell I can go out and spend the kind of money some of you guys do. I can "generally" only squeeze in a couple hundy to swing a deal. I don't spend money on anything else and luckliy I married a woman who is VERY frugal.



Here's what I do know:
Deals come along on arcades and in no time a person can have a room full - but not of popular titles unless you are extremely lucky. Not everyone pays $1200 for a Donkey Kong lol. However pinball machines are freaking expensive and while a good deal may come along that good deal is still a great deal of money.

Do you people make so much freakin money you can afford to do this or
are you guys living hand to mouth to just to be able to buy all this crap?
Seriously I'd like to know.

Well I can answer this for you easy. It is called a COMPULSIVE DISORDER. I started with a Asteroids I got for Xmas and then it happen. I bought 4 then 16 then 60 and now I have 1000 videos and 200 pinballs. THe sad thing I just got off the phone with a guy and planing on buying a lot more. I have 60000sqft that is 3 quarters full. If this market ever really crashed I would be back sucking rugs again. At 1st it was the hunt I got into the most and going every weekend to get my prizes. Now it is just a disorder that I need help with. Stop while you can. My family should of done a intervention. I quess I am lost. The best part now is seeing how many quarters I can get out of a machine and unloading the trucks and seeing what works and what does not.
 
Well, I've only been in the hobby for about 5 years, and currently own 2 Tempests, Robotron, 2 Gyruss's, Lethal Enforcers, Q*bert, Kangaroo, Joust Cocktail, Popeye cocktail, Rampage World Tour, Silent Scope, Star Trek Voyager, DKjr, Pole Position II, Space Invaders, Peter Packrat and about 10 other cabs that were converted and have an undefined future at this point.

But I also got luck and got a job in the hobby, as chief video arcade tech for a local home gameroom repair shop. So, not only do I sometimes get opportunities to "save" games from my work, but I can also buy cheap games and fix them on my own.

There are really two types of collectors:

1) The type who buy games already completely working and in decent shape, but for a higher price.

2) The type who get games with multiple issues and fix it themselves, but get them for a low price.

Right now, I am from the 2nd group. One Tempest was free and the other was given in exchange for repair work. The Robotron cost $50 unworking. Silent Scope (minus a monitor) was traded to me by my work in exchange for a working 25" monitor we needed for something else. Space Invaders came to me working in exchange for a generic cab so I could save the SI from being turned into a 48-in-1.

Obviously, my job helps me get a lot of stuff, but a connection with other close people who are also in the hobby helps, too. When i saved a Xevious from my work - a game I really didn't care much for but thought it was too pretty to be 48-in-1'd - I traded it to another local collector for Q*Bert, which I like a lot.

There are lots of ways to increase the quantity or quality without spending much money. Sometimes you grab something free that you don't really care for, because you can later trade it for something you DO like. Or sell it (once it's fixed or prettied up) and use those funds towards a better option...
 
Well I can answer this for you easy. It is called a COMPULSIVE DISORDER. I started with a Asteroids I got for Xmas and then it happen. I bought 4 then 16 then 60 and now I have 1000 videos and 200 pinballs. THe sad thing I just got off the phone with a guy and planing on buying a lot more. I have 60000sqft that is 3 quarters full. If this market ever really crashed I would be back sucking rugs again. At 1st it was the hunt I got into the most and going every weekend to get my prizes. Now it is just a disorder that I need help with. Stop while you can. My family should of done a intervention. I quess I am lost. The best part now is seeing how many quarters I can get out of a machine and unloading the trucks and seeing what works and what does not.


Wow that's some real deal over there where you at.
Wish you all the best of luck and hope your business will survive for ever.
 
OK so who has all the money?

What state do you live in?
What is your occupation?
How much do you make a year?
How much is your Rent or Mortgage?
How much are your Property taxes?

I'm in WI
Construction HVAC
Approx.$60,000
Mortgage 1,100.00/month
Prop.taxes 4,500.00/year

After feeding,clothing,and providing shelter for my wife and three teenage kids
I don't have a ton left over-especially after paying off debt for non stop home
remodeling projects.
 
I've been collecting since the early 90's and being patient has paid off for me big time- if you wait long enough, the right deals will come along; get in a hurry and you'll overpay every time.

Over the years I've seen the cycle come full circle- from the early days when classics were dirt cheap to the late 90's through mid-2000's when prices were through the roof, until now when everything seems to be way down.

I don't pay for storage and rely on hard work to create value, I've spent WAY too much time on some projects, but they've all turned out beautiful.
 
It's mostly dumb luck, investing time and executing proper bargaining technique.

I've yearned to own arcade games since growing up with them, bought my first Cab in the fall of 2006. Three years in and I now have 8 games. Some were eBay finds, the rest were local and only 1 was a west-coast delivery (Gravitar). Have some ready-cash and be ready to act on tips, keep your eyes open and the collection will grow fairly quick. Watch the forums, craigs, ebay and your local classifieds (if they still print a newspaper in your town). It helps to 'know a guy' so when you encounter these folks keep them in your contacts list.

Good luck and happy collecting!
 
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First off...Chris's arcade is simply amazing, He has, hands down, the nicest collection of machines, and valuable machines I have ever seen. He not only puts money into them but a lot of time, effort, and experience. As far as I'm concerned his level is out of my league, plus I lack the compulsive attention to detail that makes his restorations amazing.

I have been doing this for 2 years and been through probably about 30 games, until recently I only had about 1000 net into this, that will go up to 2500, but then hopefully down to having money back out very soon. This is how I look at it.

There are three types of games: Those I need, those I want and those I can flip.

Those I need, I will spend market dollar if I can find them, these are my grails.

Those I want, these are the ones that if I find a great deal on I buy, ie. Black Knight 2000 for 600, nice Ms pac for 300.

And those I can flip, these are the ones that are frankensteined to the point where multicades only makes sense. I won't buy one of these for more than 150, most come between 50 and 100, and to me the monitor is worth 50(esp in Hawaii)

But as someone earlier said, only buy what you would keep, so I don't buy flips that I wouldn't be happy keeping once I'm done, and I build to my standards, not the cheapest I can for an extra buck or two. That way if they don't sell I'm not dropping my prices to move things. I also, many times, build to order. By having a top quality machine around, people are willing to order on and make deposits.

I supported buying most of my games by building and selling multicades, or fixing pins for people. The other things I've been doing lately is fixing up someones machine for them in exchange for their other machines. I just traded a 465 in 1 installed into a 1943, for a Ms. Pac, Klax, and Astron belt, seems like a crazy deal but this guy lives in hawaii, loves 1943 and his wife told him he had to down size.(Crazy because he has a new cp, board, coin door, and bezel for Ms. Pac) Anyhow that's my strategy briefly, and it's worked so far, been stressful, and there is not accounting for the sweat equity, but that's the fun part...right?

Oh one last thing, don't down play bargaining. A little strategy, although obnoxious, that has worked for me, is telling the person "This machine is worth x to me", then when they start going on about how great it is, I say "I'm not arguing with you about what you think it's worth, it's worth this much to me, if my numbers don't match yours, that's fine I wish you luck with selling this machine" I don't debate value, I tell them my value of it, and if I start bargaining, it always means I'm willing to walk, and will.
 
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Without seeing your whole financial outlook it's tough to give you a straight answer. A lot of people in this hobby don't realize how the nickel and dime stuff adds up. Sometimes if you just wait and buy a nice game you would be surprised at how fast you will have the money for it. If you put away $50 a check, in a few months time you can pay $400-$500 for a really nice game and just put it into place. In that time you could have also blown about $500 in Fast Food, Going to the bar, a few movies, couple cds, new clothes, couple new overlays and pcbs that they really don't need, etc. Most of my more expensive games IE: EDOT, Journey, TRON I went after with a plan. Put the money away, DON'T touch it and in a few months you're ready to buy a nice game. You have to do that because if you don't, sure enough when your grail shows up you don't have the cash. The hard part is not doing anything with the money until the time is right. Sure enough every Christmas some real JEMS show up because people need cash and if you saved for the year you can really clean up. But...to answer your question bottom line is yes I make a lot of money and that is the main reason I was able to build my gameroom....
 
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Timing, patience, luck and knowing exactly what games I really want to buy have "made" my collection. I won't jump on any cheap arcade game I see locally but if it's a game I really want for my collection, I will be aggressive about going out and getting it and maybe spending a bit more because it's a game I will keep.
As I've basically finished off my collection, I've become much more selective about what I chase after. Now the only game I'd drive 300 miles or more for and spend more than $300 for would be a Gravitar. I've worked hard brainwashing the wifey for when that special day arrives when I find my "grail". I've driven further and spent more on games in the past. I don't make a lot of money but investing in arcades leaves me with something to show and look at, stocks can just "go up in smoke" and have nothing to show later on...
 
Nah.......I just consider myself EXTREMELY lucky for finding most of my classics in the garbage, or by people "knowing of my hobby", & giving me one or two that they found, or ended up with. Also many, many countless hours of me restoring them back to their former glory.
So for me, it's luck first followed by a labor of love.

Good luck to you man!
 
This hobby is not expensive at all.

You want expensive, buy a boat and start tournament fishing offshore ... money goes FAST.

Bait, Gas, Ice and Tournament Entry Fees for one weekend = upwards of 2500.00 (and that doesn't include boat payment, insurance, storage and maintenance.

But ... you have the opportunity to win 100k almost every weekend. I guess once I win, it will all be worth it. :)

After that, spending $400.00 to $500.00 on a nice, working game seems pretty cheap. My problem is not money, it's space ...

Steve
MM
 
Good question.

1. Location (mine sucks)

2. Cash in the pocket for a quick deal.

3. Just because it is a big wooden box with an electrical cord sticking out of it, don't get
excited. Don't be afraid to walk from a "deal".

4. Networking with like minded folks (not always easy, some folks don't share).

5. Word of mouth and BS luck.

I'm far from loaded but I do put away $5 towards this hobby for every day I go to work.

That would be $50 per pay or a whole $1300/ year, far from big money.
 
I never pay more than $10 for a game.
I put them back together with bubblegum and twine.
Monitors are just for show, I paint the pictures on them.
I wonder about things that are absolutely none of anyone's business... ;)
 
I guess I could honestly say I'm jealous and confused and want answers.

Jealous - here's why:
I see guys that have been in this hobby half or less the time I've been in this hobby and they have a shit pot load of games and pins. Not junk or umpopular games but collectable and popular. Now long time collectors hell yes I can see that but am amazed at the new/newer members and how fast they've acquired games.

Confused - here's why:
I've been in the hobby for a mere (almost) 4 years. I have literally had a total of 15 games so far. I am now down to 9 and almost all have been restored. My wife and I make bank compared to a lot of people. We don't live outside of our means. We eat at home at leasts 5 times a week. Yes we have the "normal" bills such as house payment (which is very doable, two vehicle payments (very doable) and we don't owe anything to credit cards. Even with what we have for money theres no way in hell I can go out and spend the kind of money some of you guys do. I can "generally" only squeeze in a couple hundy to swing a deal. I don't spend money on anything else and luckliy I married a woman who is VERY frugal.



Here's what I do know:
Deals come along on arcades and in no time a person can have a room full - but not of popular titles unless you are extremely lucky. Not everyone pays $1200 for a Donkey Kong lol. However pinball machines are freaking expensive and while a good deal may come along that good deal is still a great deal of money.

Do you people make so much freakin money you can afford to do this or
are you guys living hand to mouth to just to be able to buy all this crap?
Seriously I'd like to know.

"My wife and I make bank compared to a lot of people."

What do you consider 'making bank' - how much is 'bank' to you?
 
What kind of house do you get in WI for 1,100 / month? I ask because I'm only paying about $500 more than that and my Prop. taxes are about the same.

Pretty Big Ranch style 3 bdr 2 bath on about 2 Acres. 1,100 doesn't include any prop.taxes
 
Some of use are sicker than others. :)
10% hobby, 90%$ sickness.
Now I got myself wound into vintage computing.
apple II+ incoming. OH BOY!
 
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im patient
im a prick
i am willing to drive as far as washington for a game
i have been good to alot of people in this hobby,and it comes back ten folds
i did a few bulk buys which gave me great connections

also i think think i could completely rebuild my collection in about a year for probably 2500-5000

but i have spent over 3k in the past 2 months on one car project and that was just odds and ends. you can be cheap in this hobby others you cannot
 
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