Hobbiests are the CHEAPEST people

[copious]

Why is it that Hobbiests seem to be the cheapest buyers. I often over spend to get what I want yet something that is a clear DEAL gets negoiated to the point of oblivian.

And it's not just arcade hobbiests its all hobbiests.

 

[gprotein]

Because they do their homework on researching the real market price for whatever they are into.

 

[IvanTT]

Not all, I used to make parts for very expensive 1/6th scale RC tanks and folks ripped the stuff out of my hands regaurdless of cost. However for the most part I agree plus it seems to be not just hobbies these days but everything folks are being cheapo about.

 

[shardian]

Why is it that Hobbiests seem to be the cheapest buyers. I often over spend to get what I want yet something that is a clear DEAL gets negoiated to the point of oblivian.

And it's not just arcade hobbiests its all hobbiests.

Uhh...because they are EDUCATED buyers?

There is a reason Best Buy calls slickdeals.net members Devils, and retards with platinum credit cards Angels on corporate memo's.

Having said that, there is a limit to negotiations. If something is already a super excellent deal AND you want it, I consider it insulting to ask for an additional chunk off just for the heck of it.

Rule of thumb: If you know what you are selling is described accurately and priced fairly according to condition, do not budge on price. If someone is willing to come pick it up, they aren't going to walk over a token $50.

 

[JC Arcade]

Because they do their homework on researching the real market price for whatever they are into.

Sure...no one ever low balls a seller. Never seen that happen here. Everyone always offers "real market price."

 

[Deadly]

Because it's human nature - everyone wants to walk away feeling like they got a deal. It's why when we all sell things we mark it up a tad to allow the buyer to work you down a tad in price (to give them that warm fuzzy feeling of a deal) and you as the seller still end up with what you wanted/needed.

It's why when I deal with people I straight up tell them I'm not about to play eBay or the back and forth game. I don't believe in wasting peoples time and I expect the same from them. What's your bottom dollar is what needs to be asked. If they are toying with you, they'll most likely offer you a new "lower" price anyway.

 

[shardian]

Also, if you are marketing to the casual buyer (Best Buy 'Angels'), then you shouldn't feel insulted if a hobbyist kicks your tires. You just kindly explain yourself and move on.

 

[gprotein]

Sure...no one ever low balls a seller. Never seen that happen here. Everyone always offers "real market price."

Knowing the real market price is not equal to offering the real market price. In most cases, especially Klover's cases, offering less is probably not low enough.

 

[mattosborn]

It's not always true that people here do their homework....
For example, I'll see someone post in the wanted section for something I have. So I'll do a some research and see what the item is going for in today's market. Then I'll PM them with a VERY generous offer (a price that I would happy to pay). And what do they do? They immediately try a lowball counter-offer, without any idea of what the item is truly worth.... Just a knee-jerk reaction from a true cheap-ass looking for a steal. That really pisses me off.... At that point the item is no longer for sale. Here I am trying to help them out and they just want to fuck me....

 

[Oryk Zinyo]

It's not always true that people here do their homework....
For example, I'll see someone post in the wanted section for something I have. So I'll do a some research and see what the item is going for in today's market. Then I'll PM them with a VERY generous offer (a price that I would happy to pay). And what do they do? They immediately try a lowball counter-offer, without any idea of what the item is truly worth.... Just a knee-jerk reaction from a true cheap-ass looking for a steal. That really pisses me off.... At that point the item is no longer for sale. Here I am trying to help them out and they just want to fuck me....

You are assuming that they don't know the market value of what they are asking for. I, on the other hand, assume they are trying to work it into even more of a deal. Personally I don't like to haggle. I pay asking price and I expect asking price. The only time I ever consider haggling OK is when parts trades are being considered.

 

[ElfShotTheFood]

you have to haggle

 

[tobyocc]

This is a hobby not a must have for me. If I want something I will look for it and I know what I want to pay. So if I offer and that person does not want to sell it for that offer fine, no big deal. Some people have stuff they just don't want anymore so I figure offer what I want to spend. I don't need to have it. I need food for the kids, I need somewhere to live. I don't care about market value. It will always be bloated, look at California homes.

I simply offer what I have to spend if that is not what the seller wants thats his right.

JMO

 

[IvanTT]

Personally I don't like to haggle. I pay asking price and I expect asking price.

I agree with you. Haggling can be down right insulting at times especially when people
making an offer are being rediculous. I've been extremely irritated by a few folks lately
(not arcade related) that seem to just be trying to take advantage of the fact that alot
of people need cash right now.

 

[shardian]

When I bought my lethal Weapon III cabinet, I actually tried talking the guy UP $100. I felt like I was taking advantage of him.

 

[Mitsurugi-w]

Truthfully, if I see something that is insanely cheap I won't haggle. But if I see something that's a deal the seller may not realize what he has. In this case they usually start high anyway. This is when you can get it for below market value if you haggle.

 

[jawhn]

Good, Cheap, and Fast.




Pick any two.






Myself, I always tend to go for Cheap and Good, so I am a very patient man!

And I am one of those people that doesn't haggle a CL sale if I thought the price was good to begin with...

 

[FrizzleFried]

Yeah... when I got my Whirlwind I didn't even try to haggle at all. It was pretty much a "how much do you want for it? SOLD!" conversation...

 

[mhanlen1]

I walked away from a non-working Street Fighter II a few weeks ago for $50. They said the monitor stopped working, and had no clue that you could take the back off. It was sorta beat-up, but I'm sure there were more than $50 worth of good parts in there. I'm kicking myself for that one.

 

[p1899m]

When you are in a hobby for the long haul you make connections so can often find things at great prices. Also if you plan to be a part of a hobby for many years then although you might want something now, you may be patient enough to know it will pop up at a good price eventually.

While I seldom haggle on price and do feel that some folks are just cheap I also wonder why some people get so offended or bent out of shape by a low offer? I mean if I'm willing to pay $50 for something and you think you can get more then just say no thanks. No need to have an attitude as many people choose to.

My favorite are the sellers who say make offer then get mad when you don't offer what they want. Maybe if they listed what they wanted for the item I would pay the asking price. My guess is they are hoping for someone who does not know what something is worth to offer far more than it's average going price. BTW these are usually the people that get bent out of shape over an offer they fell is too low.

 

[IvanTT]

While I seldom haggle on price and do feel that some folks are just cheap I also wonder why some people get so offended or bent out of shape by a low offer? I mean if I'm willing to pay $50 for something and you think you can get more then just say no thanks. No need to have an attitude as many people choose to.

When someone offers you 50gs for something that is worth 250,000 I think thats insulting but that is well outside the realm of what you're talking about and is the reason this thread hit a nerve for me. To me $50 to $250 if it is something I want I'll hand over the dough no need to haggle about that.