Golden tee live upgrade help

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Hi guys, l've lurked around for quite sometime but I've finally been stumped. Any help would be great.

So Ive gotten a gtl 2007. It runs pretty choppy.

The cabinet is clean and im pretty happy with it but I want it running nice and smooth.

Let me show the components it has first:

RAM: the machine has 2 sticks of each of the following ram:

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Videocard: i couldnt find any real identifying marks or makers on it.

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Mother board:

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Hard drive:

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So how can I get the machine running smoothly? Also the load time on this is brutal. Would a solid state drive help? Ive read that people have made the switch, can the drive simply be imaged over? Or is there any issues i might run into?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
Well, your running a first Generation Nighthawk PC with AGP graphics. IIRC the Video card is a FX5200 AGP 128 Meg.
You have 2 256 meg Sticks of PC3200 Ram. For a total of 512 Meg,
If it is Stock you have a 82Gb HHD So you will need a 80Gb SSD drive to clone it to.

Yes you can Image the Drives, Use CHDMan or other Software to make a copy.

I am not sure if that version of GT Live will run on the "newer" Motherboard with PCIe Video card. Someone else should be able to tell you for sure. But if it can there may be your boost you want in load times.
But you will need a new CPU, Memory, and Video card.

You can "try" bumping the RAM to 1Gb and a SSD drive, but as the HHD is already SATA I don't feel your going to gain much. Maybe a few seconds....

ITLinux takes a bit to load everything before it enters the game so YMMV.

My SSB takes about 1:30 to boot to a game. (from a cold boot)
 
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Can i put in 2x 1 gig sticks? For a total of two giga bytes?

Or just a single 1 gig stick?

Or does it have to be in pairs?
 
you should download the manual for the motherboard and it would tell you for sure what RAM configuration it can handle.

That is my issue though, I can't identify the mother board from any markings on it. I know on a "regular" computer I can find it through the system info screen, but I am lost on how to identify this mother board as I have no real identifying markings on it.
 
Adding memory will only help if you're running out and caching to the hard drive during gameplay. Do you get "stuttering"? Can your hear the hard drive being accessed when you experience the stuttering? If so, more memory may help.

Most arcade machines running on a hard drive tend to use the hard drive for storage only... meaning they are designed to run within the memory of the unit. If that is the case for GT Live, you'll get very little benefit (if any) from more memory.

As to whether you will get a boost from a SSD, likely yes... but how much depends on the operating system the unit is using from my understanding (I was considering an SSD solution for Need For Speed)...
 
Think i found it. I took a ton of photos last night of any and all serial numbers i could find on all the components last night.

And this was one of the pics:

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Cross referencing that number gave me the desktop board "D865GLCL (10/100 LAN)"

AND then i was able to find the manual by googling the board type.

*whew* now to try and make sense of all this....

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...kjdqqaObbpwdEG65A&sig2=oy8gPLNhxJdLL7dOaDCPyw
 
I've ordered the ram just in case, (it was only 10 bucks)

Corsair Value Select 1GB DDR 400MHz CL3 DIMM (VS1GB400C3) x 2

I got it shipped to my door for 10 bucks canadian (I got lucky and found a canadian seller on ebay)

So that part is covered. I am not sure if I need 2 gigs, all the upgrade PDF files I find about GTL, show only one 1gig stick being installed.

Oh well.

Can't hurt to have more I guess.

The waiting game now is on. Hopefully this cures the choppy video and game play.
 
You Could also look into what CPU you have, what the board will support, and if your lucky you can max it out (If it is not already) and you may also get a fair speed bump.
Boot the PC and look at the first screen on a VGA monitor, it will tell you what Speed the CPU is, of go into the Bios and look on the first page, or remove the CPU and "look" at it but you will need new heat compound then.
 
What happens if you put all your stuff back into your original PC?

Do you have the USB I/O card connected and Powered up?
What is this "new" nighthawk? Same Intel board? or the Newer one?

What parts did you "swap" over???
 
I don't know anything about the Night Hawk kit that the newer Golden Tee machines use ( I only have a GT2005 machine), but it looks like it's running a custom Linux kernel. Normally when a Linux HD or file system is corrupt you'll usually get a kernel panic and the machine either gets stuck and/or reboots. In Linux runlevel:6 means reboot... I don't know if there is a way to drop into the command line on that thing during boot try to load the game using a different runlevel. It may just be that the HD is toast or it's forcing a reboot when it finds something not loading correctly. Do you have another HD with software on it to see?
 
What happens if you put all your stuff back into your original PC?

Do you have the USB I/O card connected and Powered up?
What is this "new" nighthawk? Same Intel board? or the Newer one?

What parts did you "swap" over???
Ok. So I need to fill you in with more back story for this to make sense.

The GTL machine came complete with everything but not working.

So I swapped the GTL 2007 hard drive into a nighthawk from a working silver strike bowling and it ran, but it was choppy hence my original questions.

Now I went back to the "broken" nighthawk system and put in a new psu and it fired up. So I swapped the GTL 2007 hd back in and now it's stuck rebooting.

And now you have the full story.
 
As far as I know the 865 motherboard will not work with golden tee. Any time I tried no matter what year 2006 up to 2016 it attempts to boot but goes into a reboot loop. You can call I.T. tech support to confirm this. Its a bitch on random non final builds of early versions of gt to figure out what motherboards or graphics cards are supported.
 
As far as I know the 865 motherboard will not work with golden tee. Any time I tried no matter what year 2006 up to 2016 it attempts to boot but goes into a reboot loop. You can call I.T. tech support to confirm this. Its a bitch on random non final builds of early versions of gt to figure out what motherboards or graphics cards are supported.
Funny thing is, the 865 I had did work that was my original complaint. It worked but it was choppy.

Now that I have the original nighthawk for GTL 2007 it doesn't work.... lol
 
GTL will not run correctly on the Intel D865 motherboard. The D865 motherboard was used only on Silver Strike Bowling and can be used with Silver Strike Live if the software is at or below version 3.2.5.

GTL has used the following motherboards:
DG915
DG965
DG31PR
DG41TY
Any of these motherboards listed above will run your version of software without any chopping issues. I recommend a gig of ram and the ge7600 video card.

Clay
 
GTL will not run correctly on the Intel D865 motherboard. The D865 motherboard was used only on Silver Strike Bowling and can be used with Silver Strike Live if the software is at or below version 3.2.5.

GTL has used the following motherboards:
DG915
DG965
DG31PR
DG41TY
Any of these motherboards listed above will run your version of software without any chopping issues. I recommend a gig of ram and the ge7600 video card.

Clay

The GTL nighthawk is running with 1 gig of ram (2x 512 sticks), and BFG Technologies 6600 Model GeForce 6600GT video card. It is on the approved list of IT games recommended video cards.

The GTL Nighthawk I believe is all original so my biggest issue right now is why is this thing rebooting over and over again. Anything to look for in particular? Why is it telling me everything is OK and then crashing and rebooting right before it is supposed to launch the game?

So here is what I think might help narrow down the issue, I plan on hooking the SSB nighthawk back up again with the GTL hard drive to ensure nothing has happened to the hard drive (it loads perfectly fine albeit plays choppy) so this way I can eliminate any HD issues that might have arisen from the transfer. The likelihood that this doesn't work I believe should be very low cause literally it was just unplugging and plugging in two cables.

Then I am left with the issue of one of four components being bad on the GTL nighthawk, Mobo, vid card, ram, PSU. It has to be isolated to one of those four cause the HD (pending confirmation) will be working.

From there, I will transfer the PSU from the SSB into the GTL and see. If that works, then another component will be eliminated, as I know from the above test that the SSB PSU works and runs fine.

The video card I can test in my home PC and see if it runs, if that is the case then we should be able to eliminate that, and leave it up to one of the remaining two parts. Mobo or RAM.

I can also test the ram I guess in my home computer and see if it works, I have an older computer that takes DDR2 ram, so I will test the sticks in that, and if all goes well, then I guess I have the culprit which will be something with the mobo itself which is causing the issue.

Does this method of troubleshooting make sense? Or are there any flaws in my plan?
 
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Back Story read and understood.
But one thing bugs me. Looking at your Video about the reboot
I see serious graphic artifacting Shortly before the sound "gets stuck"
So as that PC never did work you could have had a power supply issue AND a video card problem.

None of the Nighthawk systems I have here have ever graphically glitched like that while booting up.
Do you have another PCIe video card you could try?
 
The list of graphics cards are so limited and short I don't have any others to try. These are the only two nighthawk systems I have access to. Just the ssb one and the original GTL one.
 
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