Golden Tee Fore! board version

[BC-Jasper]

Does any one have info on various version of the green board. I recently have a V4 board die and bought a new board on line. When It tried to install my security chip and hard drive in the new board got an error that the software was incompatible with the hardware. Turns out the new board looks the same, but is V6 board. I dont see any marking on the security chips saying they are for V4 or V6.

Any one delt with this?

 

[DarrenA]

You have a different "version" of the game board you bought. IE: 2002 or something else than what YOUR board was. To fix this take the U61 chip from your board and transplant it on your new board. all should work again.

 

[BC-Jasper]

I dont see a U61, the chip at U26 is different between the boards. I will move it tonight to see if that does the trick.

I have attached pictures of both boards. V4 was the original board that worked with my security chip and hard drive. V6 is the new one.

Thanks!
BC

Version 4
Version 6

 

[RoboLup]

U61 is kinda between U2 and U6. I see it in both pictures

 

[BC-Jasper]

AAAHHH, I was only looking at socketed chips.

Surface mount... great... UUUGGGHHH

 

[BC-Jasper]

Ok, so I moved the U61 from the old board over to the new board, made sure it was aligned properly. Checked to make sure the solder flowed well, at lest it looks good to me. System goes thru all the checks, file system ok, disk load complete and then when it goes to launch the game the speakers chrip and then it resets...

Thoughts?

 

[BC-Jasper]

So I reflowed the chip again and confirmed it was well attached.

Then put the system into test mode, here are the screen shots.

First test screen: Second test screen: Final test screen:


Screen shot right before it reboots:


Hopefully someone has some ideas.

Thanks,
BC

 

[aramis1]

I bet there is still a mismatch or issue with the security chips. What drive and security chips are you using?

On pre-2006 versions it will usually reboot if the security is wrong, on 2006 it gives the red screen.

Does it make it to the screen that shows the serial number and software #? If it shows serial number with all zeros you fucked up the u61 installation and the u61 can be cleared off if it's not installed right and needs to be reflashed.

It's also possible with a board revision that old that the U61 won't work on the rev 6 but I think it should be ok.

Final possibility is that there is a board issue. I have a board that I can't fix that will reset at that screen even with security chip and everything matched perfectly- it's some other issue I haven't really looked at it much.

Also one more is sometimes if the video card is bad it will reset when game tries to load.

Software number should be 40400 or 40401.

 

[BC-Jasper]

I have tried both the original HDD with 2004 course sets and also a new CF 2004 version, with the original G44-US-U security chip.

I was getting this error before I lifted the U61 from the old board:



Now it just reboots before it launches the game, I assume it was my installation of the U61 thats what I am going to redo this weekend.

It isnt showing all 0's so I hope I have cleared it some how and its just my bad surface mount soldering. I do have a heat gun rework station, but no solder paste, so its tough. I did ohm out and best I can tell no pins are shorted to each other from solder blobs.

fingers crossed!

Thanks,
BC

 

[BC-Jasper]

I give up.

I redid the solder work and inspected everything looks great. still reboots.

The U61 from the V4 board is 93AA46 and the V6 board had an older 93C46. According to all the specs they are the electrical same.

No idea where to go next.

 

[aramis1]

I sold you the kit, if you weren't in Canada I'd say send me the pcb and I'd bench test it and have a few broken completes I could even use to convert it. I can send you another security chip for 2004 if you want to pay the shipping + $5 for the chip to try that as it's possible it's bad (they do go bad). I could even send you a 2005 extra chip+ u61 and flash card at cost if you wanted to try that but it may not fix the issue. It would at least let you know if the pcb is the fault.

I've worked on so many of these pcbs at this point they just get all sorts of weird one off errors- they just aren't that durable.

I do have one pcb that bugs me that does the exact thing yours is doing and it's not the drive or security chips. It's totally possible its an error on the pcb. Look at the xilinx and huge ass surface mount chip a lot of time they get corroded and fuck shit up. Also check for corrosion on the boot rom socket (look under it) and make sure the socket is good I've seen boards reboot when that was the issue even if it will get so far as to almost get to the game. Especially when putting a different brand eprom in it since they seemed to use really shit quality sockets on those.

 

[BC-Jasper]

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[DarrenA]

Your U61 is fine and there is no mismatch. If there was you would be getting another red screen telling you what is wrong. You have "something" on your new board causing the errors in RED in the test screen. Photo 2 and 3 These errors will cause the watchdog to reset the board. And there is your problem..... For a test pull the e2card chip from the board, pull the modem off the board and re-test it.

 

[DarrenA]

And just for reference :
Software versions:
40600 Complete GTC
40500 GT 2005
40501 GT 2005 Extra courses
40400 GT 2004
40401 GT 2004 Extra courses
40300 GT 2003
40200 GT 2002
40100 GT 2001

Unfortunately if someone pulled the U53 or swapped it at some point there is no way to "know" just by Looking at it, what the board version is. Unless you pull the U61 and read it that is. Or put chips on it and power it up and see what it says.
So your original board was a 40600 and the board you bought on Ebay was a 2004 40400 Every version of Fore from 2001 through 2006 had the same boards, with a few changes. some were tournament, these had extra processor and some other chips installed, then the "normal" older green boards. They then switched to the RED boards with ATX power connections (because they were having some issues with power draw on the Green boards causing the JAMMA fingers to burn.) This is also the reason for the add-on power harness that connects to one of the 4 pin molex plugs on those boards. That was there "fix" for the power issues.

Green and RED also have 2 "TYPES" 8 RAM chips and 4. 8 being the most common The 4 chip version was used on some Big Buck Hunter games. As far as I know nothing else used that setup.