Genesis reproduction ramp delivery

My manufacturer seems to be someone I may not want to work with in the future.

Can you divulge who the manufacturer is to help prevent this from possibly happening again to someone else down the road ?
 
Can you divulge who the manufacturer is to help prevent this from possibly happening again to someone else down the road ?

If it comes down to me having to refund you guys out of my pocket, then I will divulge his identity. I still think this will end positively, so when it does, I will introduce him to you guys in a positive light.
 
and Lindsey, I am sorry, you are right. You have been very supportive. Please know I am doing my best.


Thanks

Understood. I never thought you were at fault right from the beginning and still don't. Sucks that the whole thing has been such a pain for you and everyone else.
 
I am not ready to write it off yet. I hound him everyday, and if he didn't want to finish, I think he would stop answering me. If it does come to that, I will be refunding everyone, no matter how long it takes me to get the money together.
 
This was the response I got:

"Im going as fast as I can sadly with the job making me change hours and all work is now relegated to weekends only. I will be working all weekend coming up to get them all done. I want to be done with these as well".
 
"Im going as fast as I can sadly with the job making me change hours and all work is now relegated to weekends only. I will be working all weekend coming up to get them all done. I want to be done with these as well".

Quite frankly, at this point I really don't care that "life got in the way". That may have been acceptable the first 10 times. It's been the same thing for months. How many times now have these things been supposed to ship "next week". Commitments were made and broken over and over again. Give me my ramps or give me my money. Immediately. Simple as that.

/obviously not directed at my pal playpin ;)
 
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At this point do you guys all have his email? He told me he had been emailing many updates out, but I was only copied on one.
 
At this point do you guys all have his email? He told me he had been emailing many updates out, but I was only copied on one.

I sent a "reply all" this morning to the last email I had which was a month ago. There have definitely not been "many updates". There should not be a need for many updates in the first place.

I realize this is out of your hands now, Tim. Thanks for taking on the project and I feel bad that it turned out so poorly for you.
 
I emailed saying that I didn't want any more excuses and I wanted either the ramps shipped next week or a full refund. This was the reply:

Quite honestly since your being a smartass your items will be shipped last. Hows that? Don't piss me off

So... there's your update. I'm not holding my breath.
 
Oh man, that is no good. I think I am going to demand all the money back that I have sent him, since that probably won't happen, I will work on getting refunds together. I am so sorry to everyone.
 
Oh man, that is no good. I think I am going to demand all the money back that I have sent him, since that probably won't happen, I will work on getting refunds together. I am so sorry to everyone.

I'm not accepting a refund from you if you don't get the money back from him. Wouldn't be fair.

There are still emails going back and forth. We'll see what he says as far as when they'll be done this time. Even if the ramps are produced, mine will probably arrive smashed at this point. haha!
 
At this point do you guys all have his email? He told me he had been emailing many updates out, but I was only copied on one.


The only email I got from him was him saying for us to get off your ass because you had given him the money and there were several weather delays on producing them. I emailed him to see what was going on as Lindsey had pointed out it had been a month since his last email and all he had to do was paint them. If his response to Lindsey's request is hateful, then he obviously has no intentions of finishing the ramps. If he is truely losing money by making these, then why would he follow through?
I'm curious as to how many members are still waiting?
 
I'm curious as to how many members are still waiting?

I think there were 10-12 people on the email thread I was replying to. At this point my emals are being ignored. I'm usually the last person to be posting emails but these already went out to a bunch of people so here you go, for the information of anyone else who might be waiting on these.

This was my first email. Not the nicest tone, but I wanted to get my frustration across:

lindsey said:
So where are we at with this? Some more excuses? We all understand that life gets in the way sometimes with these kinds of projects but it's gone WAY beyond the timeline for that being an acceptable excuse. This email was a month ago and you could "smell the packing tape". You've had more than ample time to get this project done and people have been really understanding. It's time to send the ramps by next week or send out refunds immediately.

If you can't ship the ramps by Monday I want a full refund. I don't think that's unreasonable at this stage.

His reply:
angry ramp guy said:
Quite honestly since your being a smartass your items will be shipped last. Hows that? Don't piss me off

My reply:
lindsey said:
Just send me a full refund. I paid $160USD. You can paypal it to this email address. Your reply below indicates that you obviously have no intention of conducting business in even semi professional fashion. After this amount of time and the fact that these were supposed to ship multiple times I don't think I was unjustified in asking for what I paid for. What we all paid for. Especially after a month of no communication whatsoever. If you actually produce the ramps I'm sure you'll have no problem finding a buyer for my set.

His reply:
angry ramp guy said:
LOL I don't have the money. I am the one making the ramps and losing money. So you will wait, and thats all your getting. All further emails from you will be ignored for your shit assed attitude and flippant remarks

And lastly:
lindsey said:
I guess after months of broken commitments and total lack of communication we don't get to ask for our product or our money? The latest reply doesn't really inspire confidence that we're going to get our ramps any time soon, if ever.

Feel free to point out where anything I've said is not factually accurate. I just want my ramps or a refund. If you can't produce the ramps for a profit that's not the fault of me or anyone else who pre-paid for them. Again, I just want what I paid for or a refund. If you feel that's unreasonable go ahead and give me a good reason why.

If you had explained the situation and given a reasonable timeline and provided updates I'm sure people would understand the delays. After repeatedly saying you're going to ship the ramps, then not shipping or providing any updates it should come as no surprise that people are getting a little fed up.

So... for everyone else's benefit, because I assume I'll never be seeing a set of these ramps, when do you expect to have them ready to ship?

Then I asked when the ramps will ship again with no reply. So there you go... it's all out in the open. If he claims to not have the money to send me a refund then I fear we're all screwed.
 
Why is no one here banging on this guy's door. show up at his shop,collect the money or the ramps and be done with it. where is he located? really!someone man up and go get your money or the ramps.do not let this asshat screw you.call the bbb, something,anything.
 
Why is no one here banging on this guy's door. show up at his shop,collect the money or the ramps and be done with it. where is he located? really!someone man up and go get your money or the ramps.do not let this asshat screw you.call the bbb, something,anything.

If I remember right, it was oregon? Too far for me to do anything about it, even though I would like to. Bottom line is the email at the first of july said the paint had to cure on the ramps before shipping them out. If that was the case, then we would already have them. I believe we paid for a few individuals to receive their ramps, crappy shape or not. After the money was used up, the project was dropped. I'm sure all of the pictures taken, were of the original batch and used to keep the suspicion down. I'm just tired of people offering services and then making excuses why they can't follow through. Seems to happen to frequent to me here lately.
 
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