General monitor question

Whoa friend.

What is the definition of "a beautiful monitor?"

The devil as they say, is in the details. If you wanted a CRT that was burn free, you should have ASKED if the "beautiful monitor" has a burn-free CRT. Otherwise, you are assuming, and you know what happens when you do that.

So take a big breath here. Understand that attacking members is not going to work here - people will just block you.

Asking for help: good.
Providing answers to people who are trying to help you: Good.
Being polite to a fault: good.
Understanding the terms of a sale: Good.

For example, if you buy a board from one of the sellers here, he warranties his work for 2 years. He burns in his boards. And he defines his warranty in his sales offers.

Unless the seller of the CRT offered such statements, your purchase is as-is, where-is. No warranty is expressed or implied.

You are demonstrating something called "buyer's remorse." Taking that out on the seller is just not right.

As I have said, you need to slow down. Take stock of what you have, and what you want. Understand exactly what you are looking for, and then see if you can find it.

For example, I see you looking for another chassis (ironically with the same seller you are not being kind to here.)

What is your intent in this purchase?

Do you intend to:
1. Take your original CRT (which was burn-free, but with focus and color purity issues) and install the chassis on that?
2. Use your new CRT (or another one you have bought,) and transfer the tube to that?

The reason I'm asking is for purity issues and focus issues sometimes those are TUBE related, not chassis related. You have to know what to adjust on the tube to resolve those issues.

So if you buy a chassis under those assumptions, you are likely to end up with another disappointment and more buyer's remorse.

So let's SLOW DOWN here.

What exactly are your plans: Please be specific, and because you have so many things flying around, be very DETAILED in your plans. Perhaps we can find a way to help you without having more drama here.
Very on point. I did not see it that way. My plans is to use it on my non burned crt. But honestly the burn is not bad on my new go7. And I have not put the smoked plexi on yet. All is well. I'll take pictures Sunday
 
Very on point. I did not see it that way. My plans is to use it on my non burned crt. But honestly the burn is not bad on my new go7. And I have not put the smoked plexi on yet. All is well. I'll take pictures Sunday
Your non-burned CRT, which had color (purity) issues on one side, right?

This is if I recall correctly, it had kind of a kludge on chassis - I'm getting turned around and I'm not sure, since you appear to now have 3 CRTs - so if I'm wrong, I'm open to feedback as to which one this is.

Putting a new chassis on that tube is not likely to result in any difference in the color. Those are TUBE issues. So again SLOW DOWN.

We need more facts to help you. Heck, I need a scorecard to figure out what you have done.
 
Your non-burned CRT, which had color (purity) issues on one side, right?

This is if I recall correctly, it had kind of a kludge on chassis - I'm getting turned around and I'm not sure, since you appear to now have 3 CRTs - so if I'm wrong, I'm open to feedback as to which one this is.

Putting a new chassis on that tube is not likely to result in any difference in the color. Those are TUBE issues. So again SLOW DOWN.

We need more facts to help you. Heck, I need a scorecard to figure out what you have done.
 

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It sounds to me like the original monitor was functioning just fine, however there were issues with color rendering and lack of adjustability with that setup.

It also appears that the chassis was placed with that tube from an unknown source and is not original to that particular monitor? Perhaps a frankenmonitor?

As ATGW said above, the color issues could be due to issues with the tube... It's possible it might need to take a trip across a rejuvinator. Perhaps a HUMBLE and CALM request to find a local member with a rejuvinator and experience that might come over for an hour or two on a Saturday to help out a bit may be in order?

If it turns out the tube is OK and the color issues stem from an issue with the chassis... perhaps the chassis could be gone through, or perhaps a different(as in not G07) chassis and neckboard(and deflection coil if the OG coils measure incompatible)might be a better match to the original burn free tube? A picture of the neck on the burn free tube will help a more experienced member ID what neck it is, and what neck boards are compatible. Information on deflection coil values and chassis compatibility is readily available through the forums search.

You did admit you hadn't viewed the screen through the smoked plexi yet... that in itself may well render this entire thread moot. Smoked plexi hides alot of sin. The pictures of the tube that you did post don't show that severe a phosphor burn issue IMHO.

I have a Xybots that has a pretty fair amount of burn(which is also inverted) from a different game. Although there are many light colored areas during game play, and this game doesn't used smoked plexi... I almost NEVER see the burn unless I specifically think about it. The human brain has a great ability to filter out "background noise".

The way I see it is this... use the G07 on your MC for now. In the meantime, learn yourself up on sorting out the original monitor. Take it as an opportunity to learn and hone your skills. If the burn still bothers you after that, put the original "reformed" monitor back in and either sell off the G07, or set it aside to swap into another game where it won't be as noticeable.

Above all, relax and enjoy the hobby!

Just another 2₵ for a total of 4... same disclaimers as before.

Dylan
 
It sounds to me like the original monitor was functioning just fine, however there were issues with color rendering and lack of adjustability with that setup.

It also appears that the chassis was placed with that tube from an unknown source and is not original to that particular monitor? Perhaps a frankenmonitor?

As ATGW said above, the color issues could be due to issues with the tube... It's possible it might need to take a trip across a rejuvinator. Perhaps a HUMBLE and CALM request to find a local member with a rejuvinator and experience that might come over for an hour or two on a Saturday to help out a bit may be in order?

If it turns out the tube is OK and the color issues stem from an issue with the chassis... perhaps the chassis could be gone through, or perhaps a different(as in not G07) chassis and neckboard(and deflection coil if the OG coils measure incompatible)might be a better match to the original burn free tube? A picture of the neck on the burn free tube will help a more experienced member ID what neck it is, and what neck boards are compatible. Information on deflection coil values and chassis compatibility is readily available through the forums search.

You did admit you hadn't viewed the screen through the smoked plexi yet... that in itself may well render this entire thread moot. Smoked plexi hides alot of sin. The pictures of the tube that you did post don't show that severe a phosphor burn issue IMHO.

I have a Xybots that has a pretty fair amount of burn(which is also inverted) from a different game. Although there are many light colored areas during game play, and this game doesn't used smoked plexi... I almost NEVER see the burn unless I specifically think about it. The human brain has a great ability to filter out "background noise".

The way I see it is this... use the G07 on your MC for now. In the meantime, learn yourself up on sorting out the original monitor. Take it as an opportunity to learn and hone your skills. If the burn still bothers you after that, put the original "reformed" monitor back in and either sell off the G07, or set it aside to swap into another game where it won't be as noticeable.

Above all, relax and enjoy the hobby!

Just another 2₵ for a total of 4... same disclaimers as before.

Dylan
Dylan that was really nice and informative. I did not have a lot of time and I have a remote for the pots and did not have an eyeglass screwdriver to adjust the screen. I have a huge feeling that when I put the plexiglass on and turn up the light that she is going to shine. I have someone very nice who will recap the bestech for not much money. Yes I could be putting more fuel on the fire as tech says it most likely is not the chassis. But at least that's done. And I'll see. I just got a bit worked up there was a bit of burn. And hand of God. You can't even really see it. God bless
 
You probably need to invest in some CRT adjustment tools. Like this one:

And this set: https://www.arcadepartsandrepair.co...lignment-and-adjustment-tool-set-6-piece-set/

The former is used for adjusting the standard stuff, the latter for IF stages if you are working on TVs. I have two sets of these, including my original "diddle stick" set from high school in (gulp) 1979 when I built an AM radio and had to tune each IF can for maximum gain. Those stay with me in my toolbox today, and are still used on occasion.
 
Dylan that was really nice and informative. I did not have a lot of time and I have a remote for the pots and did not have an eyeglass screwdriver to adjust the screen. I have a huge feeling that when I put the plexiglass on and turn up the light that she is going to shine. I have someone very nice who will recap the bestech for not much money. Yes I could be putting more fuel on the fire as tech says it most likely is not the chassis. But at least that's done. And I'll see. I just got a bit worked up there was a bit of burn. And hand of God. You can't even really see it. God bless
I'm glad you have calmed down a bit. You can get much further and more help when being pleasant and mellow. As I indicated before, the burn will likely fade out with the employment of the tinted plexi.

I hope reworking the Bestech chassis makes some difference, but don't be disappointed if it doesn't. Like ATGW mentioned previously, it's more likely that the tube is tired. It will probably wake back up and be bright and sharp after a rejuvenation and re-balance. It is still possible there is another member relatively local to you that has a rejuvinator that you might be able to drive to to give that a whirl.

It is always worth a road trip to meet another Forum member... I've met several members in person in the last few years, and they've all been what I would consider quality people. Everyone I've had interactions with in forum communications be it open threads, PMs or purchases through the forum fall into that category as well. Mostly a great collection of people.

Good luck, and enjoy your evening,
Dylan
 
I'm glad you have calmed down a bit. You can get much further and more help when being pleasant and mellow. As I indicated before, the burn will likely fade out with the employment of the tinted plexi.

I hope reworking the Bestech chassis makes some difference, but don't be disappointed if it doesn't. Like ATGW mentioned previously, it's more likely that the tube is tired. It will probably wake back up and be bright and sharp after a rejuvenation and re-balance. It is still possible there is another member relatively local to you that has a rejuvinator that you might be able to drive to to give that a whirl.

It is always worth a road trip to meet another Forum member... I've met several members in person in the last few years, and they've all been what I would consider quality people. Everyone I've had interactions with in forum communications be it open threads, PMs or purchases through the forum fall into that category as well. Mostly a great collection of people.

Good luck, and enjoy your evening,
Dylan
Dylan
thanks for the kind words. Yes I was totally off my rocker and have calmed down. So as tech did say it may be the tube. But it may not be. There is nothing wrong with the screen as far as the picture is concerened with fuzz or anything. I am sending out my chassis . To tell you the truth I would love to do it myself. I am doing kits gaining soldering skills. I sent for somemore kits. They are fun to do. BUT at this time I should let a pro do it and that will be done and I can try that. But as I said there is really little burn on the GO7. I will take some pictures of the junction box once I get the Iso Transformer. Arcade parts and repair are out of them right now. As I have stated before my long term goal is to have enough skills to rebuild a chassis and put her on a TPG and see if I get a good pic. This stuff is very addicitng. My Missile Command is almost done, just going to smooth out and put some bondo on the back door then spray paint her matt black. I may even get the yellow translucent trackball for kicks. Then on to Stargate. I need to take my time and find a decent one but one that needs work. Work at my level.
Kind Regards
Ross
 
You probably need to invest in some CRT adjustment tools. Like this one:

And this set: https://www.arcadepartsandrepair.co...lignment-and-adjustment-tool-set-6-piece-set/

The former is used for adjusting the standard stuff, the latter for IF stages if you are working on TVs. I have two sets of these, including my original "diddle stick" set from high school in (gulp) 1979 when I built an AM radio and had to tune each IF can for maximum gain. Those stay with me in my toolbox today, and are still used on occasion.
Thanks Tech I am on it. So let me ask you I have the remote for the bestech and as I say the colors are terrible. There are 2 more pots in the back I have not touched. As you say there is more adjusting I can do. Where abouts?
Kind regards !!!!
Ross
 
I'm glad you have calmed down a bit. You can get much further and more help when being pleasant and mellow. As I indicated before, the burn will likely fade out with the employment of the tinted plexi.

I hope reworking the Bestech chassis makes some difference, but don't be disappointed if it doesn't. Like ATGW mentioned previously, it's more likely that the tube is tired. It will probably wake back up and be bright and sharp after a rejuvenation and re-balance. It is still possible there is another member relatively local to you that has a rejuvinator that you might be able to drive to to give that a whirl.

It is always worth a road trip to meet another Forum member... I've met several members in person in the last few years, and they've all been what I would consider quality people. Everyone I've had interactions with in forum communications be it open threads, PMs or purchases through the forum fall into that category as well. Mostly a great collection of people.

Good luck, and enjoy your evening,
Dylan
Also would love to meet another member and one that has the tube rejuvinator.
 
Your non-burned CRT, which had color (purity) issues on one side, right?

This is if I recall correctly, it had kind of a kludge on chassis - I'm getting turned around and I'm not sure, since you appear to now have 3 CRTs - so if I'm wrong, I'm open to feedback as to which one this is.

Putting a new chassis on that tube is not likely to result in any difference in the color. Those are TUBE issues. So again SLOW DOWN.

We need more facts to help you. Heck, I need a scorecard to figure out what you have done.
Hey tech I have 2 monitors. The GO7 in the MC right now which is staying and the bestech chassis one that I may recap myself once I get more skills under my belt.
 
Some info on CRT's, I thought really interesting. See about 8:20 in video.

Now now, let's not give this bozo any sort of attention. Between frying rare computers starting fires with paperclips and being REAL FREAKING WEIRD about open carrying rifles everywhere it's just good to avoid some folks.
 
I'm like the opposite. I feel like monitors are the only thing I have a remote chance of fixing myself. (Sometimes...maybe) But significant PCB repair for me is out of the question. I'll clean edge connectors and chip legs but that's about it! LOL
I'm with you!. PSUs, then monitors, then game PCBs. If anyone's having trouble with multilayer PCBs you're either using the wrong equipment or have your temps set wrong. It's not hard! Just spend a little time practicing different temps/tools on a junk PCB of the same sort of PCB you want to work on.
 
Went over to dial in chassis on go7 and played a few games and was playing pac man instead I think. Put the smoked plexi on and did not help. We all get taken in life time to time . Sent my bestech out and will go with that with my burn free tube when it comes back. I wish you guys could just be right in front of my game to see . Oh well
 
Gents
The colors are not vibrant. If I had more color I think things would be mighty better. I'm playing multiple games right now. I can't make out what game the monitor was in before just know it was horizontal. Like a pac man etc. how do I get deeper colors ie: red etc. my remote does not have brightness or anything related to colors. Peace out. Sunday church
 
Pimping her out. Gonna get led t molding the yellow should be a deep yellow. The black , dark black if there is a such word. If the colors where deep it would be great
 

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