GAUNTLET UPGRADE KIT question & help.

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I just purchased a gauntlet dark lagacy upgrade kit. I am putting it in my midway vegas 777 board set. When I powered it up, the L.E.D. went 1-6 and then stopped on 6. After a few seconds it displayed E then u. The boot chip has ver. 1.7 and the hard drive has ver. 2.41. Don't the boot chip and hard drive have to match versions? What does the error mean? Thanks for the help.
 
I'd love to find a complete list of the error codes that LED displays during boot up. The manuals don't say which is just stupid.

I know that when it stops on 8 it's a bad video card.

I wanna say that 6 is a bad hard drive but I don't know for sure.
 
What came with the kit? Should have a boot chip, security chip, and hard drive. Are you sure you hooked the HD up right?

You are correct, the kit came with a boot chip ver. 1.7, security chip and hard drive ver 2.41. Double checked the connections and orientation of the chips. Everything looks good. The kit also came with side art, cp overlay and a poster.

One thing to add. The game prior was an NBA/NFL Blitz. Any reason this upgrade kit could not be used on this game? Are there any other chips that need to be changed out?
 
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I am having a similar problem with a Gauntlet Legends machine. I inherited this as two non-working cabinets; one had a monitor but no PCB, the other the PCB but no monitor. The Machines were built within days of each other.

So I moved the PCB to the cabinet with the monitor and on but up I also get the uE error, and I have no idea what it means. I have a complete owners manual but nowhere does it say what that code means, It seems the hard drive is spinning and the monitor brightens up, but no video or sound and cant get into the test screens.

Does anyone have any ideas?I
 
You need to look at the number that is reported before it starts flashing ue.

What number is it?
 
Mine will run from 0-6 and then 0-6 again and then 0-8 then it flashes the uE code.

I have reset all the roms, and I can feel the hard drive moving, but still flashes uE. I am unable to get the machine into test mode using the service switch, so I cannot identify the problem using the internal self-tests.

I'm back in the manual with some more time to see what I can learn. I sure would appreciate a nudge in the right direction from anyone who knows.
 
OK, that one is easy -- that's the one that I DO know.

When it stops at 8 and flashes UE that means that your video card is bad.

Fortunately it's easy to fix and NOS cards are readily available on Ebay. There's a guy there now that has a box of them NOS for about $40 + s/h.

Nothing really to fixing it -- it's a PCI connected card. Just unscrew everything holding it down, unplug it completely and it slides right off. Slide new card in and repeat the process in reverse.

I posted the link to the guy on ebay selling the cards a couple of weeks ago -- search for my thread and you'll be good again in a couple of days.

Oh, and do you have both fans running on your boards cooling them? There's supposed to be one right over the video card blowing down on it -- if you don't have one there that's working then your card probably cooked itself.
 
Is there a reference material available somewhere for what all those codes mean?

I was looking through the manual I have, it came with the game and it explains jumper settings on the cpu board, it looks like the original settings for jumpers "J1-J6" were supposed to be pins 1 and 2. I am having a problem determining which pins are which. Would the pin closest to the hard drive ribbon cable input be pin 1 or pin 3?

On my machine J5 is jumpered to pins 2 & 3, and on J6 I only have two pins. I have verified by the part number stickers that it is the correct board for this game. I am curious if that makes a difference.

I am going to continue with all the checks I can make. Most likely you are correct and my video board is the problem. I just hate to replace it and blow one again if something else is wrong as well.

Here is a link to an online manual I found and thought I would share;

http://www.crazykong.com/manuals/GauntletLegends.man.pdf

The pages in question are 3-4 and 3-5
 
Do you have a fan blowing on the video card?

The jumpers involve gun i/o ports and behavior -- it's not related to your video card at all.

They go bad and they go bad in a hurry if they don't have a cooling fan blowing on them.
 
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Anyone have an idea what error a 6 is? Also, does the boot chip version need to be the same as the hard drive version? Thanks.
 
Sorry man -- your thread kind of got hijacked, didn't it?

Does your hard drive spin up? Can you feel it vibrating slightly or hear it spin up? If you unplug the power cable to it does your error change or is it still a 6?
 
LED 1 is supposed to be lit if not, it indicates there is insufficient power to the CPU.

Numerous other leds, which are supposed to be operating either on or blinking when the game is in operation on the soundboard, are also faulty. Such as Sound Board LED's 1,2,3,6,7,8,9,10,12,13

Could these all the related to the video card, or the low power indication. Now its time to hunt up the voltmeter and start checking power leads.
 
Tom, Sorry about the hijack. I originally thought we had a very similar problem. I am still searching for a meaning of all the codes.

What happens if you attempt to return the game back to original does it all work properly? Just to determine it is a problem with part of the upgrade itself and not the original equipment
 
Tom,

I was searching the threads and this sounds like a similar problem, might be the solution as well.

06-04-2009, 03:49 AM
nekromanceru New Member Join Date: May 2009Posts: 2

Legends to Dark Legacy problem A friend finally convinced me that I can't live without an arcade game so with some help we picked up a Gauntlet Legends. After having it for about a month I wanted to upgrade to a Dark Legacy and went about buying the parts I needed (a hard drive, and 2 chips from Happ).After installing all the new parts and trying to boot, the game won't start up (I can hear everything turn on but the monitor stays black). In addition, there is an LED on one of the boards that displays numbers as it is booting. When I have the Legends parts in it, the LED will count up to 6 or so and work correctly but the Dark Legacy goes to 2 and then it seems to cycle an error code.When replacing parts one at a time from Legends to Legacy it seems that the board is not recognizing the security chip. Does anyone have any suggestions about fixing this? Do you think I got a bad chip from Happ? Help, I must free the world from the evil clutches of Skorn!

nekromanceru New Member Join Date: May 2009Posts: 2

Quote:Originally Posted by Cableman So you're saying that if you remove the upgrade parts (hard drive, chips) and put the game back like it was, it works correctly?
Yes, putting all the original parts back in the machine make it work properly as a Gauntlet Legends.Quote:Originally Posted by IJTFCinder Did you change said security chip? They both run on Vegas hardware, but one's a Midway game and the other an Atari game, the security chips are most likely different.
I'm not entirely sure I understand what you are asking but when I put the PIC chip from HAPP (security chip) in the board, the game doesn't recognize it and won't complete the boot process. After reading your post I looked at my game and it is branded ATARI and not Midway so maybe that is it?I dunno, I got nothing.

06-05-2009, 04:14 PM
IJTFCinder Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007Location: Ontario, CanadaPosts: 1,667

Quote:Originally Posted by teckkev Either bad security chip or wrong version item(s). Like HD different version than roms or different version than security chip. Far as I know.. Vegas is Vegas. I know 1 uses Obsidian video card.. what video card does the other one use?Kevin
Both use 3DFX Banshee video hardware.......(Well it's the exact same hardware, my question was regarding the security)Yes both are Vegas, but Legends is an Atari game and Dark Legacy is Midway. I would hope Happ sent you the right stuff, but can they send the drive with the data on it already? ie; did they?And there are 2 different versions of Legends, and 2 different versions of Dark Legacy. The actual ROMs do not differ between versions with Dark Legacy, only Hard Drive data. (The ROMs are different between versions of Legends though, but no changes to the drive).Bad roms, or something wrong with the data on the hard drive. Maybe dump the drive and compare it with the CHD(s) for MAME? __________________Items for sale ChaseTheChuckWagon Vendazzle Last edited by IJTFCinder; 06-05-2009 at 04:33 PM.

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On another note, when I looked at my Gauntlet Legads Machine my chip says version 1.5 or 15 I cant really read it, but the hard drive is clearly marked 1.4
 
What happens if you attempt to return the game back to original does it all work properly? Just to determine it is a problem with part of the upgrade itself and not the original equipment[/QUOTE]


That's probably one of the problems. I purchased a NFL/NBA Showtime game non-working. So nothing ever worked in my system. I have purchased other drives and nothing seems to work. So you think that the boot chip ver. does not have to match the HD ver? I just printed out the LED codes for the vegas 777 hardware. The drive does seem to make noise. I just can't seem to figure what is going on. Any ideas what to check? Thanks.
 
Tom, my ideas are only at the beginning and you have most likely done everything I am going to say, but here is my story so far.

I acquired two arcade legends cabinets from a friend, neither one worked at the time I got them. One was missing the monitor and the other the entire PCB assembly. So I put the PCB assembly I had into the cabinet with the monitor. Now the machines were made only days apart according to the manufactures sticker on the back.

Every thing light up even the monitor gets bright, but no display, no sounds nothing.
The led on the CPU board will count to 6, two times then it will count to 8 and give me the uE code. From everything I have learned in the last few days, this means the video card is bad. OK, I ordered one tonight.

I also went through my manual carefully tonight and I have a few other issues, which may or may not be related to the video card. Time will tell.

I first checked all the factory jumper settings on the CPU board, I may or may not have them right, as I am not sure which pin is actually pin 1, the manual doesn't say other than what settings are for what purpose. Then I went to the dipswitches and verified they were set to factory settings. Then I had LED issues, which I detailed in earlier posts. Next I attempted to verify my power supply was putting out the correct voltage where it was needed. I believe it is pretty darn close as the 5V voltages read 5.2?V and the 12V reads 11.97V. There are no separate adjustments on my supply all I can do is turn things up and well I don't think it will go any higher.

Also I explained my ROM and HD version numbers don't match, but having to remove every screw holding the main PCB assembly in the machine as well as the covering grate leads me to believe at one time this machine operated as it was supposed to.

So what does all this mean for you in your situation, I am not sure.

My first suggestion would be to acquire a manual for your original cabinet and game, and reinstall the original components. Make that work before attempting the upgrade. Then..

My second suggestion would be to look at the Gauntlet Legends manual link I posted earlier, and verify that the Atari part numbers match what is required in the manual. As your upgrade kit was meant for either a Gauntlet or Gauntlet Legends (Most Likely) upgrade. I am in no way an expert but it does make sense. If you received a manual with your upgrade it might also detail that information.

Suggestion one would ensure you are upgrading a working machine, two would ensure you have the capability of doing so. In an earlier post I noticed there was a difference in manufacturers this may or not be an issue.

Since I do not know first hand if my error code and all my issues are related to my video card, I am only able to update when I get the new card, from what I have read and relayed in previous posts I have read an error code at 6 is related to the hard drive unit, but please do not rely on me.

I relize I may not have been of much use other than to sympathize with you. But since you and I live close to each other I will make an offer. If I can get my machine up and running, I would be happy to have you come over and we can attempt your upgrade. This would verify that it will work or not as you received it. It is the least I can do for my prior hijack of you post.
 
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