Gauging interest...NEW "black is Bulletproof" Amplifone flybacks

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Gauging interest...NEW "black is Bulletproof" Amplifone flybacks

There is a company here in the US that sells new flybacks that are just like the original black Wintron/Pentran flyback. They come with a 1 year warranty. He normally sells them for $250 each but would do a bulk price of $125 each ( probably would be a little shipping involved too as he would send them to me and then I would send them out) so figure closer to $150-ish by the time they are packed and shipped. Lead time would be about 3 weeks as this is not something they make on a regular basis. This company bought out Wintron and has the legal rights to make this flyback. If anyone is interested in putting the real deal on their amplifone let me know. If i can pre-sell 10 or even close to it, i will proceed.

here is a link to the flyback.


http://www.lexelimaging.com/atari_power_supply.html
 
Lexel IS wintron/pentran. Or at least part of them.
 
Lexel IS wintron/pentran. Or at least part of them.

I was talking to the president of the company on the phone and he said something like " when we took over Wintron, we got the plans for these and decided to make them available". Either way, they are legit and that is the main thing :)
 
The real deal would be a still working red one. I thought I read there were still a few working out there.
 
I think this will be a tough sale. Even at $125 (now add shipping) there is no current proof that these are superior to Cine version. Shostak himself admitted there is only one flyback that did the job perfectly and that was the original red. There is no current proof that the lex version has a longer life expectancy either. Cine version can be had for what ... $35-$39?

When I say current proof - I mean only time will tell the true tale of whcih is the superior product.
 
I think this will be a tough sale. Even at $125 (now add shipping) there is no current proof that these are superior to Cine version. Shostak himself admitted there is only one flyback that did the job perfectly and that was the original red. There is no current proof that the lex version has a longer life expectancy either. Cine version can be had for what ... $35-$39?

When I say current proof - I mean only time will tell the true tale of whcih is the superior product.

I seriously doubt the quality of the cheap Chinese made one is anywhere near this. You get what you pay for. This one comes with a 1 year warranty. The Chinese one comes with nothing.
 
I think this will be a tough sale. Even at $125 (now add shipping) there is no current proof that these are superior to Cine version. Shostak himself admitted there is only one flyback that did the job perfectly and that was the original red. There is no current proof that the lex version has a longer life expectancy either. Cine version can be had for what ... $35-$39?

When I say current proof - I mean only time will tell the true tale of whcih is the superior product.

There is PLENTY of proof that the lex/wintron/pentran version holds up long term. They have been around for years and years before the cinelabs version was ever made. They just pulled a greedy dick move a while back when interest in a new run from them peaked and they raised the price to 250 on everyone JUST as the cinelabs repro came out so they got left holding the greedbag :)

Wintron is a great reliable flyback, just as the original from Mark at Cinelabs is. Buy from those two places who are the originators of their respective products that are both good.
 
Not standing up for the Chinese made part, but parts made in China/Korea/etc are as good as they are spec'd to be.
 
Your statement is is confusing saying "Cheap Chinese version" yet shostaks version was made by Hovee?? And FWIW I have purchased 4 Cine flybacks all from Arcadeshop. So yes I do support the originator. And as far as warranty I had one go bad about 3 months after purchase and shostak replaced it for me no questions asked. and yes prOk, it was a completely arrogant gready dick move to charge $250 for the Wintron.
 
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Your statement is is confusing saying "Cheap Chinese version" yet shostaks version was made by Hovee?? And FWIW I have purchased 4 Cine flybacks all from Arcadeshop. So yes I do support the originator. And as far as warranty I had one go bad about 3 months after purchase and shostak replaced it for me no questions asked. and yes prOk, it was a completely arrogant gready dick move to charge $250 for the Wintron.

So you are willing to pay $100 for a Chinese made one and call this one at $125 a hard sell ?
And this is the flyback that actually came on some Star Wars, not sure how much more original it gets than that. As for charging $250, it's not cost effective for them to make the flyback in small quantities for much less. They only sell a a few each year. They are willing to offer a discount if we buy 10. Once again, you get what you pay for and I would rather have one made in USA if possible.
 
So you are willing to pay $100 for a Chinese made one and call this one at $125 a hard sell ?
And this is the flyback that actually came on some Star Wars, not sure how much more original it gets than that. As for charging $250, it's not cost effective for them to make the flyback in small quantities for much less. They only sell a a few each year. They are willing to offer a discount if we buy 10. Once again, you get what you pay for and I would rather have one made in USA if possible.

Well of course that's not what I'm saying. I made mention that I did pay $100 when they first came out showing support.

My point is simply that you can currently buy Cine version for $35-$39 ... right? Even at $39 it's a hell of a lot cheaper than $125. I'm not siding on either of these flybacks btw. this community will typically buy where the cheapest product can be had if all these freaking illegal multi board threads haven;t proved heh. Especially in todays market - most people are on a severe tight budget and when you can having a working flyback for $39 and have more money to buy other items ... well I'm just saying most people will take what they feel is the best bang for their buck.

Atariscott that's good to know you have 20 year old working flybacks. But let's give the cine 20 years to compare with if we're trying to compare apples to apples. And FWIW - yes it's nice to see something actually made in the US. Go red white and blue
 
While I like the idea of original I wouldn't buy it.

My SW isn't going to 8 hrs a day and that's what the Wintrons were designed for. Additionally no one is going to pay me more because my flyback is a wintron vs. the chinese one. They will pay for a working Amp.
 
I installed a Wintron for someone way back when they sold them for $250. Installation was a royal pain compared to the Chinese one I installed a few months ago. The Wintron didn't come with so much as a wiring diagram - let alone a freaking nut to secure that threaded post to the board. You had to widen the hole in the circuit board, mount the thing with the not-provided and not-specced nut (fortunately I happened to have a threaded standoff in my toolbox that mated), and solder the wires to the board in no specified manner. I managed to find the info online, but it was a pain trying to do that while at someone else's place.

The chinese flyback, on other hand, very simple. Plunked right into the holes, soldered in place easily, no problems.


Just my experience. My Star Wars doesn't even have an Amp, so it hardly matters for me personally.

-Ian
 
379 views and not one person wants one.

This community really is a bunch of cheap bastards :(

Ya think? ;)

I don't work on vector boards or monitors... so I'll sit on the sideline and watch the carnage.
 
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