Galaga CPO - Phoenix Repro vs. Original NOS comparison

[Wundercade]

Galaga CPO - Phoenix Repro vs. Original NOS comparison

Since I happen to have both, and since this topic was briefly brought up in another thread. I thought I'd go ahead and post comparison pics of the Galaga CPOs - both the Phoenix Repro CPO and the an Original NOS that I have.

I do not have the skills or the program to put these photos side by side in one pic, so I am going to upload the high res version just in case someone wants to do that. It would be appreciated. I have a dozen photos so they will span multiple posts.

Here goes:

First the pic from Talon2000 resto thread. His old CPO and his Phoenix repro:

Phoenix Repro on left / NOS on right:

Phoenix Repro on top / NOS on bottom:

Phoenix Repro Copyright (notice how the circled C is over the point - misaligned):

NOS CPO Copyright (notice how the circled C begins to the left of the point):

 

[Wundercade]

Continued......

Phoenix Repro:

NOS CPO:

Phoenix Repro (lines below ship missing):

NOS CPO:

 

[Wundercade]

Continued...

Phoenix Repro:

NOS CPO:

That's it for now. Thanks.

 

[Raven]

I think the main differences come from the repro having a slightly different font.

 

[Wolfinator]

Looks good though!

 

[tron guy]

I think the main differences come from the repro having a slightly different font.

I noticed that right away, then it became more and more apparent.
some colors in the ships were off, and the sizing of the blocks in the ships.

I do think the reproduction looks good.
Shows how hard it is to be perfect with that huh?

thanks for that work putting this thread together.

 

[Cyberwhiz]

Still, you would think that someone could make a repro that's true to the original for one of the most popular arcade games on the planet ! I think this one looks better than the original on some of the graphics, and it definitely looks a whole lot better than two-bits...

 

[Spyridon]

It may not be an exact match, but it sure is a lot better than the other repros that are out there.

 

[Wundercade]

It may not be an exact match, but it sure is a lot better than the other repros that are out there.

Agreed. It's a very decent reproduction, but if they decide to run it again, perhaps if they see this thread, they can do some minor fixing on the font and typesetting to make it more true. I'll even provide them with high res. scans if they want/need them.




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[prOk]

Who's to say it's not an exact match to the one they scanned and traced? There's a number of slight variations in galaga cpo's over the lifetime of the production run of the game.. like most games that turned out to be extremely popular the art was run and re-run multiple times probably using different companies and artwork that might have been tweaked by the game company themselves.. I guess the point is, don't look at the original you specifically have and make the assumption that every single one out there is just like yours.

 

[Wundercade]

Who's to say it's not an exact match to the one they scanned and traced? There's a number of slight variations in galaga cpo's over the lifetime of the production run of the game.. like most games that turned out to be extremely popular the art was run and re-run multiple times probably using different companies and artwork that might have been tweaked by the game company themselves.. I guess the point is, don't look at the original you specifically have and make the assumption that every single one out there is just like yours.

Agreed, not making an assumption just showing the differences, but do you think the font and the typesetting was that varied, to be different in fact? My NOS seems to match exactly the OLD dirty one in the first pic...what can we discern from that?

I would like to note that the repro text, especially above the three boxes - is more crisp and clear. And it would be hard to make a repro off the NOS text without touching it up because you'll notice that text is more degraded looking on the NOS version, like the screen used was wearing down on definition. The process of cleaning up the text may explain the reproduction font variance.

One last (kind of related) question: I've noticed Phoenix now has the Ms Pac Sideart, CPO's, and the Galaga stuff....did the license switch hands from twobits?




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[80scoinops]

Agreed, not making an assumption just showing the differences, but do you think the font and the typesetting was that varied, to be different in fact? My NOS seems to match exactly the OLD dirty one in the first pic...what can we discern from that?

We could deduce that the two originals you have are from the same run.

Maybe gamers with Galaga machines with verified original CPOs would check them against this thread and report back with their findings. That might help determine if there are any original CPOs from different runs that match the repro.

 

[Wundercade]

We could deduce that the two originals you have are from the same run.

Maybe gamers with Galaga machines with verified original CPOs would check them against this thread and report back with their findings. That might help determine if there are any original CPOs from different runs that match the repro.

That first pic of the old CPO is not mine, I borrowed it from another restoration thread. But my NOS matches up to the part of the old CPO that is in the pic. Perhaps I should PM him and ask if he has pics of the other areas of his old cpo for further comparison.


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[prOk]

Is it really that big a deal, or is the goal to belittle the guy that spent his time and money to make something to be nitpicked to death? Just curious why the excessive scrutiny?

 

[HighScoreSaves]

I agree. He has one of the best out there! Don't like it, make it yourself. Then post it so we can rip it apart...

 

[cnlmoore]

I haven't done any research and may be talking out of my butt, but this variation of the overlay has been around for awhile. The Namco variation looks just like it so perhaps he's just using the same films or maybe just bought up some inventory. Either way, its a nice quality reproduction for a fair price.

 

[Wundercade]

You guys are going to turn a comparison thread into a crap sling? Really?

I mean, to each his own, but these comparisons have been done before....I did one on the Ms. Pac twobits CPO as well.

There's really no interest in differences as a matter of record or reference?

Wow, when did information become our enemy guys?


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[Wundercade]

I agree. He has one of the best out there! Don't like it, make it yourself. Then post it so we can rip it apart...

Don't like it? Who said that? You're getting emotional over a bland technical comparison that is purely for the benefit of reference.



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[Wundercade]

Is it really that big a deal, or is the goal to belittle the guy that spent his time and money to make something to be nitpicked to death? Just curious why the excessive scrutiny?

I'm not belittling him, he has the best repro I've seen yet. I would buy this repro again, myself, if I didn't have an original.

I guess I inadvertently touched a nerve here, but before we get too far off into speculation-ville about motive, let me just say that the purpose of these comparisons is collaborative, the information gleaned can only be helpful going forward as someone may incorporate the information into a refinement of the recreated artwork. Speaking for myself only, that is the only motivation here.


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[Gunbu]

Hey nice pics. I have some similar shots of an original Galaga cocktail cpo vs. a Two Bit repro.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluealgae/2127525982/in/photostream/