FS: TRON MCR Interconnect Cables

[joemagiera]

If you can do it so much better then you make them.
I will guarantee these to outlast anything you've ever built.
(and I've seen some of your work)

I did not say anything negative, or flame or imply anything with my question, it is a sincere question:

Can you provide more info on the "professionally made" part of your statement? They look great, but I'm just wondering about that. Did you contract someone to make you some? If so, wouldn't they be willing to make you as many as you wanted?

Can you address that please? Thanks.

 

[HudsonArcade]

If you can do it so much better then you make them.
I will guarantee these to outlast anything you've ever built.
(and I've seen some of your work)

I have... I sold out of 50 sets in a couple days.

Which of my work are you trying to complain about you anonymous pansy troll?

 

[tron guy]

I have... I sold out of 50 sets in a couple days.

Which of my work are you trying to complain about you anonymous pansy troll?

Did you happen to author a novel of any type? Maybe he doesn't like your writing style.

 

[LyonsArcade]

How can you not like the writing style of someone who comes up with "Anonymous Pansy Troll" ? That's BESTSELLER material there, lol.

Just my .02, I'm no expert but there's no way in hell I'd use IDC's for anything. I've messed with them before and they just don't hold up. They use them in factories because they're quick (in a factory)... but you can do a nice pin/housing one just as quick if you're only doing a few and not using a jig like they do at Stern or wherever. Then you don't have to worry about it anymore. Hell I think the originals were even pin/housing type, they just had that crappy flat cable they used.

 

[mattosborn]

Great... some pinball guy is now an expert on connectors.

I totally disagree.

Wow... you must be the "professional" that made these fine connectors.

 

[gamingdevice]

Pansy Troll?

I have... I sold out of 50 sets in a couple days.

Which of my work are you trying to complain about you anonymous pansy troll?

I for one am tired of the constant "technical bullying" you seem to spew at everyone
on the forums. Your narcissistic bullshit may work on some here because of their lack
of technical knowledge, but not on me. I know that you may think that you are some
techno-god here and we are just mere specks compared to you.

You love to hold those carrots over everyone's head like the SW/ESB kits.
Perhaps you will build some one day, if we are all good little children & bow to
you big ego.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and let the other users
on the forums reap the benefits?

We'll start with the SW/ESB kits, I will make them for anyone that wants one
for $50 each and we will see if they can compare to your handiwork.

That way you don't have to go through all the effort to make any more.

 

[bit_slicer]

Just my .02, I'm no expert but there's no way in hell I'd use IDC's for anything. I've messed with them before and they just don't hold up. They use them in factories because they're quick (in a factory)... but you can do a nice pin/housing one just as quick if you're only doing a few and not using a jig like they do at Stern or wherever. Then you don't have to worry about it anymore. Hell I think the originals were even pin/housing type, they just had that crappy flat cable they used.

Pin crimps with housings and 22 AWG or better wire would be boss. IIRC there are some connections between the boards that carry power. It's not too hard to see why the originals didn't hold up very well.

 

[joeycuda]

Pin crimps with housings and 22 AWG or better wire would be boss. IIRC there are some connections between the boards that carry power. It's not too hard to see why the originals didn't hold up very well.

I just bought a 100ft little spool of wire to build Berzerk cables. I'll be crimping until my hands ache..

 

[HudsonArcade]

Pin crimps with housings and 22 AWG or better wire would be boss. IIRC there are some connections between the boards that carry power. It's not too hard to see why the originals didn't hold up very well.

IIRC, there's 3 VCCs and 3 GNDs on each cable, (not sure about the center cable where there's 3 interconnects) so there's at least 6 powers and 6 grounds connecting boards.

The big problem with the original cables was just the semi-rigid copper/plastic sheets cracking where they mated with the pins in the actual connector, not the ampacity of the wires...

 

[bit_slicer]

IIRC, there's 3 VCCs and 3 GNDs on each cable, (not sure about the center cable where there's 3 interconnects) so there's at least 6 powers and 6 grounds connecting boards.

The big problem with the original cables was just the semi-rigid copper/plastic sheets cracking where they mated with the pins in the actual connector, not the ampacity of the wires...

I thought perhaps the plain undersizing of the traces in the original cables would have produced more heat and shortened the lifespan. At least a couple of those VCC/GND traces were carrying current for an entire board in the stack.

 

[HudsonArcade]

I for one am tired of the constant "technical bullying" you seem to spew at everyone
on the forums. Your narcissistic bullshit may work on some here because of their lack
of technical knowledge, but not on me. I know that you may think that you are some
techno-god here and we are just mere specks compared to you.

You love to hold those carrots over everyone's head like the SW/ESB kits.
Perhaps you will build some one day, if we are all good little children & bow to
you big ego.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and let the other users
on the forums reap the benefits?

We'll start with the SW/ESB kits, I will make them for anyone that wants one
for $50 each and we will see if they can compare to your handiwork.

That way you don't have to go through all the effort to make any more.

Hahaha... go ahead and try... there's more than $50 in parts and pcbs that go into the kit.

Whose design are you going to steal when you make them? Mine or Clay's?

Simple fact is that I don't need the money right now, and I have more important things to do with my time than to make kits for people I don't know....

Sorry to hear you're in such dire financial straits that you need to sling "professionally crimped" cables to make rent.

If anyone wants to save money and "professionally" make these cables themselves, you can use these connectors:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?freeText=346749 for $.15 cents each.
6 per cable x 5 cables = $4.50 for the connectors plus however you value the wire you use to make them....

I'd suggest using real crimp pins instead of IDC crimp pins, however:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&productId=103158
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&productId=100766

...or just go with SCSI-style connectors and ribbon cable:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?freeText=32759

 

[gamingdevice]

[Whose design are you going to steal when you make them? Mine or Clay's?]

They both have design flaws, so neither.

[there's more than $50 in parts and pcbs that go into the kit.]

Not if you already have the parts in bulk.

[Simple fact is that I don't need the money right now, and I have more important things to do with my time than to make kits for people I don't know....]

But you have plenty of time for posting lame remarks to people's threads who you don't know?

[Sorry to hear you're in such dire financial straits that you need to sling "professionally crimped" cables to make rent.]

Wrong again, my house was paid off last year.

P.S.

And at least I am not slinging your LAME jamma adapters.

 

[HudsonArcade]

Wah wah wah... have fun hiding behind your anonymous internet account, come back when you have an actual product.

 

[dirt]

i'll be the first to take you up on the $50 sw/esb kit. let me know when they are ready.

 

[flex]

Hahaha... go ahead and try... there's more than $50 in parts and pcbs that go into the kit.

Whose design are you going to steal when you make them? Mine or Clay's?

Simple fact is that I don't need the money right now, and I have more important things to do with my time than to make kits for people I don't know....

Sorry to hear you're in such dire financial straits that you need to sling "professionally crimped" cables to make rent.

If anyone wants to save money and "professionally" make these cables themselves, you can use these connectors:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?freeText=346749 for $.15 cents each.
6 per cable x 5 cables = $4.50 for the connectors plus however you value the wire you use to make them....

I'd suggest using real crimp pins instead of IDC crimp pins, however:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&productId=103158
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&productId=100766

...or just go with SCSI-style connectors and ribbon cable:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?freeText=32759

links are not working for me???????

 

[demogo]

Flex, the part numbers are embedded in the links.

You can go to the Jameco site and search on the part numbers and they come right up.

It actually looks pretty easy to put one of these together, if a bit tedious. (Looks like 200+ crimps or so?)

It's a lot of crimping but the final product will probably last forever.

Thanks Mark!

 

[HudsonArcade]

links are not working for me???????

Eh, their website sucks... just grab the part numbers off the ends of each URL.

Just make sure you're using suitable crimpers for any of the connectors. IDC ribbon cable crimpers are cheap enough to buy just to have around. Crimpers that are good for the .1" pins are tougher to find.

 

[vicjw66]

The Spaeth ESB kit I bought years ago has never given me any trouble. I might have the capability to assemble one but never design one. It is because of his design skills that set him apart. So IMHO he has earned the right to be a little coarse when it comes to judging others' products. Anyone can make a replacement for interconnect cables. However if you come up with a new design for an esb kit or some other kit (double punch-out) that is priced anywhere near $50 then that would be impressive. Time will tell.

 

[joemagiera]

I did not say anything negative, or flame or imply anything with my question, it is a sincere question:

Can you provide more info on the "professionally made" part of your statement? They look great, but I'm just wondering about that. Did you contract someone to make you some? If so, wouldn't they be willing to make you as many as you wanted?

Can you address that please? Thanks.

I guess questions on this thread that don't challenge or insult someone get ignored.

 

[demogo]

I guess questions on this thread that don't challenge or insult someone get ignored.

If you want an answer it looks like you'll have to rephrase your question to be insulting. Have at it!