FS: The Addams Family Pinball / Denver / 2,200.00

Here is the 2nd email I received, I requested phone number for a 2nd time
and accused them of the ad being a scam and this is what they came back
with:
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I dont know why my pinball ended up in your area.My nephew listed the machine online and looks like he listed the pinball in a wrong location.Anyway i can pay for the shipping and insurance.


I have a contract with eBay so we can go through eBay Protection Program.
According with the eBay you have 7 days after you receive the pinball to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not.
Here is how it will work:
1.First of all I will need the following details from you:
- Full Name
- Full Shipping Address
2. After I will receive the details from you, I will forward them to eBay.
3. After they will process your info, they will send us both invoices. You will receive the invoice with the details on how to make a refundable payment.
4. eBay will contact me and I will ship the pinball to you. After you receive the machine you will have 7 days to test, verify and do whatever you need to the pinball. If you will decide to buy, then I will get money from ebay .
5. If you will decide that you do not buy the pinball, eBay will refund your payment and I will contact shipping company to pick up my machine from your address . If you wish to make the transaction, please send me the necessary info so that we can proceed. I look forward to hearing from you .

Thank you
 
seems legit with Ebay involved and all

If I had to guess the web site is not going to be actually EBAY probably
a fraudulent sight setup (To look like Ebay) to get your money and then never hear from them again.
 
Actually, this was a pretty big scam with sewing machines about a year ago. Before you laugh, good sewing machines go for between $5k-$20k... I know because my wife quilts.

They will give you someone's ebay account that is not them, but a person who takes a couple of days to return emails. They know this by testing a few times.

Then they will have you send the money via Western Union if they can. Claiming the transaction is going through eBay, but it isnt. Then a FAKE "buy it now" page is put up etc etc.

The last person who did this was arrested in Toronto.
 
Tell them you will send them the money through western union. After getting their info then tell them you just sent the money they will cream their pants only to go down to the nearest western union to find the money is not there. When they contact you again swear that you sent it and will go down there again to figure out what happened. Email them back saying there was some small hiccup but the money is there for them now. Laugh knowing that they made two wasted trips to get your money.

Unfortunately, I think now they can call Western Union by phone and verify if the money has been wired before going to pick it up.

The best approach to dealing with these people is to report the activity to the abuse departments of the systems they are using. Contact abuse@craigslist org and forward them examples. A search on Google will reveal the ads are posted all over CL. The scammer is using the e-mail box: [email protected], so contact [email protected] and let them know that account is been hacked and used by someone else. Then examine the IP addresses of the correspondence the scammer sends out. Let's do some forensics of the headers:

Received: from outbound-mail.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.15])
Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail22.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.162])
by smtpout06.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABGPQCHKAMVY24A
Received: (from [email protected])
by webmail22.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id QT6NN7XP; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:14:38 PST
Received: from [172.129.107.90] by webmail22.vgs.untd.com with HTTP:
Sun, 7 Nov 2010 20:13:51 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [172.129.107.90]
Mime-Version: 1.0
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

What we know from the above info:

"Jessica" was using a webmail application hosted by untd.com (so we want to forward that info to [email protected] - you can do a WHOIS of untd.com and get the contact info if abuse@the domain doesn't work - you can even get someone on the phone sometimes too). When "she" accessed webmail, she was at the IP address of 172.129.107.90

That IP address belongs to AOL. So ironically, you have someone using a corporate webmail account, with AOL as the ISP, using a juno.com return address. They're definitely trying to hide their tracks. You can also forward the mail to [email protected] and with any luck, you can get untd.com, aol, juno and CL to shut down all the accounts, or else turn the data over to the FBI for investigation since it's an active interstate fraud situation going on.

Also, further correspondence with the scammer will likely reveal additional systems and user accounts he's compromised, so you can gather all that info and start shutting things down. You could also contact the FBI, but usually they don't care about cases unless it involves some big influential corporation.
 
Actually, this was a pretty big scam with sewing machines about a year ago. Before you laugh, good sewing machines go for between $5k-$20k... I know because my wife quilts.

This is true. My wife's collection of quilting stuff is worth more then all my arcade stuff. Sad. :001_ssad:
 
I responded to "her" 2 days ago with "Shady Cove? Really? NICE! I live in White City OR, just a few miles down the road. Shoot over your phone number and address and I can come take a look anytime! I am VERY interested.

Mysteriously ... she's not responded back.
 
I have not heard anymore from her/him either, see last response below
after I requested her phone # for a 3rd time, this was their response
back to me on Nov. 7th.

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I had an accident while i was riding a horse few weeks ago and now i have some auditory problems and i cant hear much so im not able to speak on the phone for a proper conversation,but feel free to mail me with your questions.
Thanks
 
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