FS: Star Wars boardset, Amplifone HV board

[qbass187]

Fail! Not one funny picture has been posted. Tsk Tsk!

Here you go, ENJOY:

 

[tron guy]

Thanks Jawhn. You know, sometimes I am rude. And for that I apologize. But there comes a point where I can just no longer stay quiet and watch the slaughter of these games because someone is lazy, impatient, greedy, "needs space asap" ( usually because they have another game coming, how lame is THAT ?!!! ), or just simply can't be bothered with any hassle whatsoever or go out of their way to help a game survive. I have heard all the arguments over the past 15+ years of my collecting.

" Parting out one helps a lot of others survive"

I lost count of all the machines I have saved about 50 games ago. If you are patient, the parts will come around without having to buy them from a fresh klov kill. There are tons and tons of parts out there. Repair instead of replace when you can.

"I tried selling it whole"

I have sat on games for months before and then suddenly someone comes out of the blue and buys it. Don't give up so easy.

" It's my game, i can do what I want"

It is and that is true. So why not want to do the right thing and preserve it ( if it's worth preserving) ? !!!

" I need space, i have another game coming"

Really ?!!! This is probably the single worst reason I have ever heard. If that is why you are parting a game, then you really don't need to get another game. You need a new hobby.

I will never understand how collectors can smash nice games and sell the parts off it.

"I am parting my HUO tempest so I have an extra monitor, in case mine ever happens to break down"

 

[dezbaz]

Gosh

What a mess

It feels like jumping into a lions den posting in this thread.

I understand people not supporting sellers who part out restore-able machines.

But buyers?? If someone needs a part, and has waited for years, they buy it, right?

Parts are out there, but how does a buyer even know the history most of the time?

If the price is right it will sell.

I am not a fan of politics in a hobby.

I am a restorer, and have never parted out a machine, but I am a buyer of parts if I need them, and I am not fussed where the parts came from. I assume if the parts are cheap, the guy was probably struggling at the time. So I am helping him out . . . . ??

Whatever your view, why can't we keep it a bit friendlier around here. People help one another etc. Nice people will keep coming back etc

Merry Christmas guys

 

[Mitsurugi-w]

I can't see why this thread was deleted in the first place.

Oh yeah. I generally agree with Arc's POV. Don't part out nice cabs. I've parted two games. Both water-damaged beyond any hope.

 

[2084]

You should have never bought the game to begin with. That said, if after parting it out, it wasn't worth ANY of your time to see to it that the cabinet found a good home, then you don't belong in this hobby. Do us all a favor and don't ever buy another game.

I don't know who the fuck you think you are to tell me what I should have or should not have done. *I* drove 11 hours for that game. *I* had to deal with a wife who was pissed off about it at the time it was bought (2004) and it was *MY* money that was spent on it. I sat on that game for well over a year trying to get it to someone else -- it didn't and it HAD to go, so it did. End of story. My wife is pleased that it's finally gone, I got my money back out of it and I don't give a flying fuck what you think about it.

Mind your own fucking business next time and stay out of mine.

I've said my peace on this and won't comment further.

 

[ArcRevival]

I don't know who the fuck you think you are to tell me what I should have or should not have done. *I* drove 11 hours for that game. *I* had to deal with a wife who was pissed off about it at the time it was bought (2004) and it was *MY* money that was spent on it. I sat on that game for well over a year trying to get it to someone else -- it didn't and it HAD to go, so it did. End of story. My wife is pleased that it's finally gone, I got my money back out of it and I don't give a flying fuck what you think about it.

Mind your own fucking business next time and stay out of mine.

I've said my peace on this and won't comment further.

When you come on here and threaten to smash a cab if no one buys it, then you make it everyones business. You can't expect people not to comment on it. If you want to flaunt that shit on here, then be prepared to take the heat.

 

[vicjw66]

Trust me, it wasn't that nice -- maybe a 6/6.5 on a scale of 1 to 10.. Most of the people asking about it commented about the crack in the control panel cut out and of the beginning stages of swelling along the bottom from moisture. The pics might have looked awesome, but it wasn't like that in person and this was the reason I turned away long distance folks who were asking about shipping and those who were talking about 1200 mile road trips to pick it up. It just wasn't as nice in person as it was in pictures. I didn't want to deal with long distance expectation failures from an out of state buyer who couldn't see the cabinet in person.

Why not just take better pics of the damage then. Oh wait, because it wasn't worth your time. Sorry.

 

[splattergatz]

i think i want to buy something that was posted at the beggining of the thread but i cant remember what it was now
i bought a major havoc board a while ago and am still looking for a monitor and a conversion board and some other things but i cant remember what they were either

i prefer to buy parts from old cabinets
i love making games from parts cabinets

when do i say no ? i cant read the fine print and cant remember where its printed

let me know when you have monitor for sale...

 

[mecha]

I don't know who the fuck you think you are to tell me what I should have or should not have done. *I* drove 11 hours for that game. *I* had to deal with a wife who was pissed off about it at the time it was bought (2004) and it was *MY* money that was spent on it. I sat on that game for well over a year trying to get it to someone else -- it didn't and it HAD to go, so it did. End of story. My wife is pleased that it's finally gone, I got my money back out of it and I don't give a flying fuck what you think about it.

Mind your own fucking business next time and stay out of mine.

I've said my peace on this and won't comment further.

interesting point here. I could go the smart ass route like select others in here, but I won't, cause I don't know you. I wouldn't drive 11 hours to acquire a game, drop my hard-earned cash down, and bring it back for a year and then... I don't know, need it gone.

if I was going your route of demolishing it if no one took it, I would have taken the extra effort to show the damage as to avoid the backlash.

like any hobby, there's going to be some fickle ticky-tack kind of issues involved like these. I believe that Arc's entitled to not sell to certain people, just the same as when my parents breed dogs they can refuse to sell to people that, for lack of a better way of putting it, don't really give a fuck to take care of the dog properly.

I couldn't care less about these old ancient relic games as far as collecting them, but there are games that are sacred to other people just the same as there are games that are sacred to me (incidentally the ones that a seemingly majority of the users on here don't give a shit about), and under no circumstance would I destroy a cab even if it was a game I absolutely hated. (Crystal Castles comes to mind..) I'd as soon as give it away to someone, anyone, before going that route, cause you don't get money from destroying something. in fact you have to use certain resources and put wear and tear on certain items in order to do the job, right?

I'm not saying what you did was wrong, if it was a junk cab, it was a junk cab, but you either should've never bought it in the first place or you should've made it perfectly known that it was a 6.5/10 cab (which would imply it's not that bad.. but whatever) and not a 10/10 cab.

I approve of this thread... I think.

 

[Robotron]

It should be within every one's rights to sell or not sell to whoever they want to.

That said, any statements that might embarrass another member should be made in a PM. Unless that member is just a dick and keeps attacking you in public.

I agree with ArcRevival, just not the way he told the other guy he didn't want to sell to him.

I have a pretty nice Tempest, and if I did things the way some people do here, I would scrap it and sell the pieces, because its worth about $150 more in pieces.

Is that the right thing to do? Not in my opinion. I collect to keep the games as original as I possible can. I don't even like to change the overlays or repaint, unless they are severely damaged.

 

[djw90]

It should be within every one's rights to sell or not sell to whoever they want to.

That said, any statements that might embarrass another member should be made in a PM. Unless that member is just a dick and keeps attacking you in public.

I agree with ArcRevival, just not the way he told the other guy he didn't want to sell to him.

Im in agreement with you Robotron. He can sell to whoever he wants. I dont care. I found the same 100% rebuilt part within hours. I dont need Dave's parts.

As far as I knew things were fine between me and Dave. We had 3 successful transactions, hell he even dropped one machine off at my parents house in Eagle, ID about 15 min from his house.

I talked to my friend that Dave just sold his Gravitar too. Dave was over at his house a week ago fixing it cause it died, and he said from the way Dave talked things were good between us. He seemed shocked about this!!

So Dave is now calling me a Scavenger for buying parts to restore my machines??

So tell me Dave since you have the balls to call me a Scavenger, back it up. I have looked thru every part I have bought since our last successful transaction, and I see nothing that I bought that came out of a machine that I think should have been saved?? Dont be the little man from potato land. Speak up bro. What cab should have been saved that I killed??

All I can figure is you dont like who im buying parts from. But you never sent me the pre approved do not buy list. Its either that or your pissed that the Red Baron heading that way isnt coming to you. Whatever it is bro speak up!! If your going to make false accusations Speak up. What games am I responsible for killing????

If its too personal and you dont want to speak over the net. I would be happy to meet you, and talk it over when I im town in a few months. Just name the time and the place

 

[jawhn]

Fail! Not one funny picture has been posted. Tsk Tsk!

Better?

 

[ArcRevival]

As far as I knew things were fine between me and Dave. We had 3 successful transactions, hell he even dropped one machine off at my parents house in Eagle, ID about 15 min from his house.

True , we had a couple of transactions, but since then, I have seen a few times where you were PM'ing people that were parting out games. You just could not wait to swoop in on the fresh kill. I thinks it's pretty disgusting when collectors do that and encourage people to part out games. By the way Dan, and I mean this sincerely, your parents are two of the nicest people I have ever met. My truck was making a weird noise and your Father helped us jack it up and take a look at it. The world needs more people like your parents. I also think the apple does not fall far from the tree, and that you are just a little misguided when it comes to buying arcade parts from the hacks that are parting out games.

I talked to my friend that Dave just sold his Gravitar too. Dave was over at his house a week ago fixing it cause it died, and he said from the way Dave talked things were good between us. He seemed shocked about this!!

Should I have just shown up at his house and start dragging you through the mud ?

So Dave is now calling me a Scavenger for buying parts to restore my machines??

So tell me Dave since you have the balls to call me a Scavenger, back it up. I have looked thru every part I have bought since our last successful transaction, and I see nothing that I bought that came out of a machine that I think should have been saved?? Dont be the little man from potato land. Speak up bro. What cab should have been saved that I killed??

Tell me that you have NEVER responded to posts for people parting out a game, or posts saying that the game was going to get parted if it was not sold whole and inquired about parts.
I can't sit here and provide a link on command, but I know that you have replied to some parted games that looked pretty nice.

All I can figure is you dont like who im buying parts from. But you never sent me the pre approved do not buy list.

Do you really need one ? Really ?

Its either that or your pissed that the Red Baron heading that way isnt coming to you.

Get real Dan. You are the one that seems to be in competition with everyone, not me. I am happy for where that Red Baron is going. If I really wanted it, I would have tried to trade the Gravitar or 2 of the other games that I sold him for it. Here is a news flash for you, I have had TWO chances to buy Red Barons in the last 3-4 months and passed. I am more interested in going after other things right now like test equipment etc and been more interested in helping others get their games working and so on. I will get a Red Baron later but thanks for the lol and showing me how you think. That's typical of a new collector. I'm way past the point of getting jealous over games. Well, i might be a little jealous of the prototype Red Baron that Francis has, but that's it

Whatever it is bro speak up!! If your going to make false accusations Speak up. What games am I responsible for killing????

I never said you were responsible for killing a game. I said you are quick to PM people when THEY kill a game. No false accusations here. Just the truth bro.

If its too personal and you dont want to speak over the net. I would be happy to meet you, and talk it over when I im town in a few months. Just name the time and the place

I'm the one that initiated it over the net, but it would be cool to have a collector get together when you are in town and maybe I can sway you away from the Dark Side of buying parts from nice games getting parted.

 

[FrizzleFried]

Lemme see if I can understand this...

In the arcade world according to Dave:

(A) It's bad to part out games. (I agree!)
(B) It's also bad to buy parts from... parted out games. (Huh?)

If you think about it... if you subscribe to (B), you just may have to go the (A) route to get the parts you need... no?

I am confused.

Regardless...I'm glad I got to read this... I'd heard about it from a couple people over the weekend...

 

[bungy]

(B) It's also bad to buy parts from... parted out games. (Huh?)

I think you're oversimplifying this point. I think what ArcRevival is saying is that it's not good to buy parts from a working game that was parted out just because the seller wanted to make a buck or get rid of the game as quickly as possible. It can be said that the buyer is also implicated because he is supporting this practice (of parting out working games) and creating a market for the parts (which will be satisfied by more people parting out working games). Thus decreasing the limited number of classic games we have in the world.

Buying parts that have been sitting on a shelf is ok because the damage is already done. Whether the parts are NOS, or parted from a dead game, or parted from a nice working game doesn't matter because we have no control over how the parts got to that state, and in many cases we don't know.

Parting out working games with bad cabinets is a grey area because some may not have the skills / time to do the wood/artwork restoration. Others may see it as a simple job, or are willing and patient to spend the time and money to do it.

Personally I agree with ArcRevival, though he is more vocal and active about maintaining his principles to the point of being perceived as rude. He also draws attention to this issue that every one of us should at least consider.

 

[savit4l8r]

I think you're oversimplifying this point. I think what ArcRevival is saying is that it's not good to buy parts from a working game that was parted out just because the seller wanted to make a buck or get rid of the game as quickly as possible. It can be said that the buyer is also implicated because he is supporting this practice (of parting out working games) and creating a market for the parts (which will be satisfied by more people parting out working games). Thus decreasing the limited number of classic games we have in the world.

Though I certainly agree with the principle, what business is it of mine to tell someone else what they should or should not do with something they bought and paid for? That and the (perception of) hypocrisy are what I think most find objectionable here.

 

[FrizzleFried]

I think you're oversimplifying this point. I think what ArcRevival is saying is that it's not good to buy parts from a working game that was parted out just because the seller wanted to make a buck or get rid of the game as quickly as possible. It can be said that the buyer is also implicated because he is supporting this practice (of parting out working games) and creating a market for the parts (which will be satisfied by more people parting out working games). Thus decreasing the limited number of classic games we have in the world.

Buying parts that have been sitting on a shelf is ok because the damage is already done. Whether the parts are NOS, or parted from a dead game, or parted from a nice working game doesn't matter because we have no control over how the parts got to that state, and in many cases we don't know.

Parting out working games with bad cabinets is a grey area because some may not have the skills / time to do the wood/artwork restoration. Others may see it as a simple job, or are willing and patient to spend the time and money to do it.

Personally I agree with ArcRevival, though he is more vocal and active about maintaining his principles to the point of being perceived as rude. He also draws attention to this issue that every one of us should at least consider.

So... just to be a pain in the ass (I mean... we all know I am... and I have to live up to the name, right?)...

When...exactly...does a part become something purchased "off the shelf"... I mean, most parts come from... PARTED cabs these days. How many days is kosher it to wait... before you purchase a part from someone who has one to sell... that pulled it out of a cab he parted.

A month? Year? 5 years?

I mean this is a little silly. Sure... you don't want to encourage people to part out their machines, but hell, if someone makes that decision (THEY ARE A BIG BOY YA KNOW)... and if that person has a part I need and that part isn't available anywhere else... it would be asinine NOT to purchase that part REGARDLESS of how long that part sat on a shelf.

Just to cover my ass... in the future... I;m asking every mother-f***er I purchase ANYTHING from to set that bastard on a shelf overnight... that way I can honestly say I bought that bitch "off the shelf".

 

[savit4l8r]

You have such an eloquent and tactful way with words Jon...

I mean this is a little silly. Sure... you don't want to encourage people to part out their machines, but hell, if someone makes that decision (THEY ARE A BIG BOY YA KNOW)... and if that person has a part I need and that part isn't available anywhere else... it would be asinine NOT to purchase that part REGARDLESS of how long that part sat on a shelf.

Just to cover my ass... in the future... I;m asking every mother-f***er I purchase ANYTHING from to set that bastard on a shelf overnight... that way I can honestly say I bought that bitch "off the shelf".

 

[7146aaron]

Parting

Buying parts that have been sitting on a shelf is ok because the damage is already done. Whether the parts are NOS, or parted from a dead game, or parted from a nice working game doesn't matter because we have no control over how the parts got to that state, and in many cases we don't know.

First I want to give Kuddos to Arc for the improvements he has made in his manners in the last couple of posts on this thread. I do not agree with you but you have been more polite than in the past.

What is quoted is what I do not understand. If someone parts there own game, posts the parts for sale, what is the difference in that and buying parts that have been on shelves for a few years? Those games got parted too. I have parted games years ago (and still do) and still have parts from those games that have long been gone. Either as extras or when someone needs them to repair there game. When I part a game, I put the parts on shelves after the pictures have been taken. Does that make it OK? What I am saying is, any part that is for sale that is not NOS came from a parted game. Be it 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago. If someone is going to part a game and offer up the parts for sale to help other games live. It is a good thing. It is going to happen either way. Again, the gray area is what condition was the parted game in? That should not matter to the person buying the parts. It only matters to the conscience of the parter. There are people that can fix a game no matter what condition it is in. So when does it stop being justifiable to part cabs that are swollen if you can buy a new cab or make it yourself and save the game? If you are going to personally condemn someone for buying parts. You should be running around the country buying up all the games you see that are being parted. You can stop by here first. Otherwise let it happen. They are not all your games, but you treat them as such.

 

[bungy]

Ok. Suppose there are two guys that each have a Centipede machine. Both cabinets are 8.5/10, working, minimal screen burn, cap kits, the works. First guy makes a thread "Parting out a working Centipede", posts pics of the complete working game, and says I posted an ad on CL yesterday, but it didn't sell, make me an offer on what you need. People come out of the woodwork and say "I'll take this", "I'll take that". Drama ensues for destroying a working classic even though others can be completed. Seller posts pics of burning cab, doghouse cab, whatever. Threads get deleted, users get banned, etc.

Second guy posts "Parts for sale - Centipede, Ms Pac, etc", posts some pics of some parts removed from the Centipede game as well as some parts from other games. Guy says he bought them from an op and sold his game before he got around to restoring it. People buy the parts, no drama. A month later he posts some more parts, and this cycle continues until he is left with an empty cab that he chops into pieces and bundles up for the garbage man. Doesn't speak a word to anybody about getting rid of the cabinet, in fact no one knows he ever had it.

The point is we really can't know whether we're buying "conflict free" parts. But in the first case we know the guy was deliberately trying to piss in our cornflakes*.

* Frizz, since you don't understand idioms, the first guy wasn't *actually* urinating in anyone's breakfast, he was trying to upset anyone that would take the bait.