FS: Quad Pokey Eliminators $35

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A friend needed some, so I built some up.

QPE, about 1/3 the size of the original Atari boards. Used on Major Havoc and others.

Pokeys not supplied, but O'Shea Ltd still has plenty of Ballblazers for Pokeys.

I did a short run to have some spares for my own boards, and it's unlikely that I'll ever do another run.

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I have a stack of these leftover from the MH Repro PCB runs if anyone's interested.

Available either blank or populated with headers/sockets...
 
Please pardon my ignorance, but what does this board do? I know the Pokeys control the sound on Atari machines, correct?

Just wondering if this is something I need for my Atari games.

Thank you
Chris
 
Please pardon my ignorance, but what does this board do? I know the Pokeys control the sound on Atari machines, correct?

Just wondering if this is something I need for my Atari games.

Thank you
Chris

Based on your VAPS, you don't need this. QP used on MH, FF, I,Robot, ROTJ and other applications ...
 
Please pardon my ignorance, but what does this board do? I know the Pokeys control the sound on Atari machines, correct?

Just wondering if this is something I need for my Atari games.

Thank you
Chris


It's mainly used on Major Havoc boards, which had a special 'quad pokey', which was basically four Pokeys in one chip. Most Atari boards only have one or two Pokeys, but MH has four.

The quad-Pokey chips could alternately be replaced with one of these boards, and four separate Pokeys. So unless you're building a MH PCB, you don't need one.
 
It's mainly used on Major Havoc boards, which had a special 'quad pokey', which was basically four Pokeys in one chip. Most Atari boards only have one or two Pokeys, but MH has four.

The quad-Pokey chips could alternately be replaced with one of these boards, and four separate Pokeys. So unless you're building a MH PCB, you don't need one.

Thank you for the explanation! Appreciate the quick replies.

Chris
 
ok, thank you! Wasn't sure if it was something I should pick up "just in case"

Chris


In general, there's never a need to spend money on arcade items for 'just in case'. There isn't anything so rare anymore that people need to hoard them in advance.

Anything that's going to break on any of your games (esp Atari) is obtainable if and when you need it these days. (And in many cases from more than one source.)
 
Anything that's going to break on any of your games (esp Atari) is obtainable if and when you need it these days. (And in many cases from more than one source.)

I think this is a stretch. There are lots of items that you could search for quite some time before finding a replacement. Many are proprietary controls or hardware only found on rare games. Some are more common parts but are snatched up in a heart beat as a result of their tendency to fail.

For me, if I see a part that is not reproduced or easily obtainable for a machine I own and I can purchase it at a good/great price I will often grab it.

A recent example, although it dealt with a pin and not a vid, was a drop target assembly for Williams system 3-7. If not in my parts bin, I would have been looking day in day out with my fingers crossed on Pinside.

Another item that comes to mind is the gun hardware for many EM gun games.

Thanks
Blake
 
I think this is a stretch. There are lots of items that you could search for quite some time before finding a replacement. Many are proprietary controls or hardware only found on rare games. Some are more common parts but are snatched up in a heart beat as a result of their tendency to fail.



Give some examples for non-EM (i.e., video) games.

Everything consumable is relatively easy to get these days. You just need to know who/where to go. (And/or you just need to know how to repair what you have, and not need to buy a replacement.)

I just see too many examples of people 'bandwagoning' onto new repro parts here, in many threads, in cases where it just isn't necessary. I've posted in VectorCollector's VDR thread several times about it, as one example. You only need to buy a VDR if you're bulding a repro PCB, and the number of people who have signed up to by VDRs greatly exceeds the number of repro PCBs that were run.

People spend money on things they don't need all the time here, out of fear that they won't have a part someday. And it's driven by FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt).

And while it used to be valid for some cases (AVG chips, small artwork runs, etc), the fact is, the hobby is big enough now that for almost every item that fails or wears out regularly, there's someone reproing and selling it. (And the market is already flooded with people hoarding them, so you'll still be able to get one, even if the main outlets disappear.) Sure, I'm sure there are obscure outlier cases for rare EM games, etc, but I'm talking about the majority of parts out there for the mainstream games people collect on this site (and Atari stuff in particular).

Bottom line, if you don't know what it is, chances are you don't need it. (And if you do need one someday, there will be plenty of ways to get one.) Don't buy things out of fear, and be educated about what you're spending your money on (as SilverUnicorn did here, so props to him for asking before buying).
 
Be careful to not include "limited run" items such as ->

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But of course, if you want/need it AND have the $$, then you can have it.
This PCB set, in particular, is worth 3x-4x+ what it sold for during the limited run. If you can find it, that is ...

(YMMV) :)
 
I just see too many examples of people 'bandwagoning' onto new repro parts here, in many threads, in cases where it just isn't necessary. I've posted in VectorCollector's VDR thread several times about it, as one example. You only need to buy a VDR if you're bulding a repro PCB, and the number of people who have signed up to by VDRs greatly exceeds the number of repro PCBs that were run.

My 2cents since I've been mentioned above.
The only reason the VCVDRs exist is due to the BXVDR no longer being available. And Bill, :( , is MIA.

I redesigned the original to meet douglasgb's need for his new SD->MH/TMPST->MH converter boards. Also, yes, some need to complete Q and MH repro boards too. Not sure how many of each were made. And not sure how many converter boards will be produced and now sold by HSS.
(And, of course, I needed some ... similar to my remaking the 1:1 PIXI II for my ROTJ boards which were missing this daughtecard; and no originals were being sold ... after years of looking/asking).

Needless, there was a need to remake the VDRs.
I too, was only planning on making ~100. Now I'm up to about 330. LOL

IMHO ->

Some custom boards - limited availability. Unless marketed.
NOS parts - limited availability. Similar to obsolete parts (but electronic parts seem to always have substitutes available).
New parts - limited availability. But may be available (year to year) dependent on interest - good example are Takeman parts.
Hoarded parts - someone always has a stash ...
 
The 440 multi is something that I missed during a hibernation period and regret not getting. I will own a Crossbow one of these days. If I can get one for a decent price before I have the game, I will.
 
Oh, here's a bad example -> the Braze Asteroids/Deluxe/LL Multi.
Those were betas and never widely produced. Some purchased them in desperation for ~$400US or so since they were so RARE. Then Braze released the designs to HSS/AS and now everyone can buy one for ~$100. That was a real eye-opener. :cool:
 
Be careful to not include "limited run" items such as ->

But of course, if you want/need it AND have the $$, then you can have it.
This PCB set, in particular, is worth 3x-4x+ what it sold for during the limited run. If you can find it, that is ...

(YMMV) :)


Again, per above, there's a difference between 'fancy limited-run bells and whistles kits to pimp your game out with', and 'common replacement parts that your game won't run without if you can't find them'.

I'm referring to the latter. The only item in that category that I'm aware of that *hasn't* been reproed are the deflection chip customs for G08 monitors. There would be a lot more G08's back online if someone started reproing those.

Everything else that was needed or really scarce for years has been done at least once. And in cases where the original source dried up/ran out/disappeared/died/etc, one or more other people stepped up and re-reproed them independently (e.g., AVG's, VDR's, QPE's, LETA's, POKEY's, etc).
 
My 2cents since I've been mentioned above.
The only reason the VCVDRs exist is due to the BXVDR no longer being available. And Bill, :( , is MIA.

I redesigned the original to meet douglasgb's need for his new SD->MH/TMPST->MH converter boards. Also, yes, some need to complete Q and MH repro boards too. Not sure how many of each were made. And not sure how many converter boards will be produced and now sold by HSS.
(And, of course, I needed some ... similar to my remaking the 1:1 PIXI II for my ROTJ boards which were missing this daughtecard; and no originals were being sold ... after years of looking/asking).

Needless, there was a need to remake the VDRs.
I too, was only planning on making ~100. Now I'm up to about 330. LOL



I don't fault you for reproing them. There was a legit need again, with Bill gone. But there are 3x as many people signed up in that thread than there are repro boards out there.

Many of the people don't have the skills to even build a repro board, and are just bandwagoning. They are buying parts that will never get used, out of fear that they'll 'never' be available again. I actually build repro boards for people, for money, and there are people in that thread buying more that I'll even use.

(And if they knew what they were buying, they'd know that you could even build a VDR by hand if you really needed to, as they are just a bunch of diodes and resistors, nothing unobtainium, or that couldn't ever be reproed again.)

In any case, it isn't the reproing that I take issue with in most cases. It's the people just spending money on stuff blindly, and not knowing what it is, or if they really even need it.
 
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