This is exactly why I posted the guy digging the hole cartoon. You hit the nail on the head. The backbiting will definitely be keeping me from ordering from a few retailers on here, now.
And I know I can't be the only one influenced by it...
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This is exactly why I posted the guy digging the hole cartoon. You hit the nail on the head. The backbiting will definitely be keeping me from ordering from a few retailers on here, now.
And I know I can't be the only one influenced by it...
ChompingQuarters
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Haa haa. Seriously Brett, you need to do a "BRETT"S BAD TRADERS LIST" here at KLOV. Seriously, if someone orders something custom before paying for it and then go AWOL we need to know about this. Brett, you really need to have everyone pay for the signs up front then send them a shipping invoice "before shipping".
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No offense to Zinfer, but with all due respect man when Dave ships something at a loss, doesn't that send up a red flag? Why would any business do that? When he offers HALF off his stock if you've prepay him a grand up front.... doesn't that send up a red flag?
A business that does that scares me. Dave makes the absolute best stuff around but he needs to work with somebody else on handling the shipping/ordering/pricing/whatever part of it.
Walt Disney was the same way. Take it as a compliment, Dave. Walt Disney couldn't pay his telephone bill but was the absolute greatest animator of all time, an american hero. There's no shame in it, you just need to get somebody who can handle the business side of it better. Walt hired his brother Roy, maybe you've got somebody you know and trust that can help you run things while you keep making these great parts?
A business that does that scares me. Dave makes the absolute best stuff around but he needs to work with somebody else on handling the shipping/ordering/pricing/whatever part of it.
Walt Disney was the same way. Take it as a compliment, Dave. Walt Disney couldn't pay his telephone bill but was the absolute greatest animator of all time, an american hero. There's no shame in it, you just need to get somebody who can handle the business side of it better. Walt hired his brother Roy, maybe you've got somebody you know and trust that can help you run things while you keep making these great parts?
darinjacobs
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Not sure if Im one of them because you didnt say which retailers, but if I am one of them so be it. To stand up to a dude who mistreats fellow collectors in here is the right thing to do. If I can help protect people from being taken advantage of and lose business because of it then I didnt want their money anyways.
Just remember, retailers can keep lists too (just like a blocked bidder list on eBay) and Im starting one right now. I just need to figure out peoples real names.
ThisOldGame
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Agreed.
think about it. not the best buisness model to follow and should raise concerns
more than "hey I got free stuff cause I derseve it."
and how anyone can overnight ship (UPS Sat delivery is extra on top of that)
to anywhere on the planet is also something to think about. its not cheap.
and in the recent SW yoke case for example
2 day prioty would have got there just about as fast for a whole lot less.
so why would it be soo important for someone to spend that kind of extra $$$
when its not nesasary? Because Dave wants to make sure you get your yoke a day earlier ?!
I dont think so.
Not a knock at Dave Ive mentioned this to him before,
and that he should really think about a distributor(s) to sell his stuff.
I would think most retailers would be open to the idea, but wouldnt except them
to prepay for any of it before hand for the same doubtful reasons as previously posted.
but on a consignment type basis with a monthly/quarterly sales and percentage exchange.
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Zinfer
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Says the pot calling the kettle black...or what would you call it with what you just said to me? Would that not be the definition of abusing a collector? Am I some non-human being or just your taking out the trash. Your speaking from both sides of your tongue son.
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Zinfer
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I don't know, that made a big impression on me. I liked it. Who else here does not appreciate a product getting shipped to them overnighted? Only thing I'm hearing so far is critical comments from other retailers.
VectorJunkie
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Overnighting the product is nice. The problem is that he does it after the product sits in his shop, for however long, going nowhere due to either time or organizational issues. So, in the end folks would rather have their product moving through a shipper's logistics wonderland than sitting in dave's shop only to get the hail mary over night delivery when it finally ships.
darinjacobs
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piss off Zinfer, I've treated you better than Dave ever will. Offered you a job, free place to live for 6 months, relocation assistance and $1500. Even sent you parts which you claimed to pay me for when back on your feet then claimed it was a gift. Whatever dude.
But Dave overnights you a part (probably on his employers account on a Friday when they are gone, so Im told) and suddenly he is your hero? You obviously do not care about the other people in here getting screwed. You only care about you!
Zinfer
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For God's sake man, get over the plastic kickplate. I'm sending it back as I never used it. And therefore you never will use it against me as well, as you have any other personal info I ever gave you. Your using my mothers death as well against me. Anything I ever told you that you could use against me 6 or 7 years later.
And then you have the nerve to say your against people that abuse collectors.
And then you have the nerve to say your against people that abuse collectors.
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I've a feeling there's going to be ALOT of #1's in your do not sell list.
Comes at too high a personal price. Years later.
Comes at too high a personal price. Years later.
Zinfer
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Hey big mouth, I just noticed your just a couple hours from me now. maybe 1.5. Getting closer. Now that makes me wonder, just how big a guy you are behind the cyberbullying.
Coming Eastward typically means your no longer beyond reach. And you have to behave a little bit better. But you'll learn that, in time.
Coming Eastward typically means your no longer beyond reach. And you have to behave a little bit better. But you'll learn that, in time.
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joeycuda
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Agreed. Overnighting it looks nice, but when I've ordered stuff, got it, and seeing that it was overnighted - it struck me as unnecessary. I don't want to sound ungrateful, but honestly, these parts are going to sit in a box until I get around to the project. I buy parts/project out of opportunity, good price, etc.. but don't get around to them as often as I'd like to. USPS Priority would be fine with me.
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