Not everyone was attacking Kalan. I was stating facts. It's a fact, that he will be liable for money that went to his paypal account. It's a fact, that he can't just defer it over to Dave and think people have no legal recourse against him. There were some assumptions made, but there are also plenty of facts implicating him. I am not saying Kalan set out to rip any one off. I do not think he did that at all. But he is still going to get hammered legally for taking in money to his paypal. And he sure did not seem to care to make it right at first, he wanted to pass the buck to Dave. My comments in this thread were to get Kalan to realize he is on the hook and needs to talk to Dave and get it resolved. I am not in charge of this thread, but you are enabling Kalan and refusing to see what is happening right in front of you just because he is your friend. I wish nothing but the best to him, and I hope Dave gives him the money to pay people back, but Kalan has not done much in this thread to win anyone over.