framing posters.. Need some input.

[Quazimoto]

Local framing was going to be very expensive. 2x to 3x what it cost at michaels. The frames are sort of cheap but they are wood and they were about $25 each (star wars was custom framed as is the joust). Those chinese child laborers do a decent job on the cheap frames..

::::wow I'm supprized at that....must be a high end shop.:::::

Michaels sells some cheap frames too, but the guy says they are made from plastic and they are harder to hang. These wood ones you can attach hooks to easily. Since my plan is to put them on the ceiling, it made more sense to me to get the wood frames. the cost difference was about $8 more.

::::::When putting screws into the plastic frames you can easily strip the plastic out and the screw will not hold. Thats why the wood is better. If you were going to to screw right thru the frame into the ceiling you would have no problem, but for $8 bucks the wood is worth it::::::

My plan is to shove them into tracks and suspend them from the ceiling in my garage. Some will hang in the hallways in my home..

They are doing a preservation mount to all of them. Thats like $30 each and puts them on an acid free backing. They guy at michaels has been doing this for 15+ years. He said its not a dry mount and can be removed, but it would flatten out the prints. Some of these prints were pretty rough. the star wars print was rolled in a plastic when I got it, but it was crushed. The warlords and the star trek were pretty abused when I got them.

:::::Ya thats an removable archival mount.....its acid free and you can have it removed if you ever want to sell them:::::::

The only one that was matted is the star trek. It was an odd size so it would have needed a custom frame. Adding the red mat was cheaper and then it would match the other framed art.

I did the UV anti glare glass on the centipede poster and the joust(it was supposed to be for the atari 20th anniversary, but I cancled it). If you ask me, it not worth the extra $50-$60 for the upgraded glass..

::::::Just keep the away from direct and indirect sunlight:::::::

I was asking about getting the 3 tron legacy double sided prints framed and its going to be $175-$225 each for custom framing 27x41. So I am probably going to see if there are other options for those.

:::::::::ont mount the double sided...dont take the chance of damaging one of the sides with the mount. Put it in a metal frame and use glass in the front and plexi in the back(weight and you can flip it to view it)::::::

 

[EVB]

I got a 35/23 frame from Arron Bros. for a concert poster, it was $30 and served it's purpose. Getting stuff pro framed and mounted it simply too expensive imo.

I noticed that michaels was having a 60% off + 10% off sale on custom framing... So I decided to ask about doing up a few atari posters..

Sales guy was nice an helpful, but it gets to a point where, where do you stop... I mean real wood frame, anti glare, low E, matting, acid free backing, ect.

So I thought I would ask what people do to frame their posters.. The sales guy was was taking about press mounting and using a foam core backing. His estimate was about $150 to do up the 24x36 centipede poster. I think that was even before we talked about the glass or plexi..

Just thought I would ask what others have done.

 

[mrbill2084]

I got a 35/23 frame from Arron Bros. for a concert poster, it was $30 and served it's purpose. Getting stuff pro framed and mounted it simply too expensive imo.

Found the receipt. the 24x36 frames were $27.99 at michaels. If the ones at arron brothers were better quality, maybe they are worth more, but the atari prints are 24x36, so it probably would not have fit.

Essentially I am paying them about $30 a print to have them put into the frames with spacers, flattened and an acid free backing. The whole point was to get them out of the tubes and protected. I feel its worth it. They are doing a good job in my book. I am going to do a few more. Maybe some of the pin posters I have too.

I will check out arron brothers to see if they have a solution for the tron legacy prints. quality 27x41 frames are not that easy to find. Seems like the ones I find on google search are about $75 a pop.

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[TRICKDRAGON]

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Looks good Don't be ---! You got a good price. Your a man! If you like it, it was a good deal!!!!! NEVER FN NEVER look back!!!! Man I would love to have pics like that in my game room!!!!! Don't ever look at this thread again!!!!!!! LOL Your a Lucky Man!!!

 

[mrbill2084]

Looks good Don't be ---! You got a good price. Your a man! If you like it, it was a good deal!!!!! NEVER FN NEVER look back!!!! Man I would love to have pics like that in my game room!!!!! Don't ever look at this thread again!!!!!!! LOL Your a Lucky Man!!!

I am not worried about it. I did not see anything posted about this stuff so I thought I would share what I found/doing.. Hey, if people have good advice, I will listen to it.

Seeing your avatar reminded me about the dragons lair and space ace posters I have. Those are big posters.. I would guess 27x41. Got rid of my laser games, but the prints are cool.. Probably will frame those up too. If I remember correctly, I bought spare prints of both of those..

 

[metahugh]

thanks for the input.. I really don't have the patience to make matt boards.. Just want to get it done right..

thats about $150 after.. the discount. I think the discount is on the frame, the mounting and other labor is probably not discounted.. Professional framing is expesive. My buddy spent $250 a pop framing some (double matt, uv glass).

I really only plan to do up right the nude centipede, 20th anniversary, star wars, and space duel.

Most of the other posters are not as nice so I bought some 60% off pressed wood frames for like $28 a pop. He was saying mounting them would cost like $22 and it would eliminate most of the wrinkles. I figure I would try a few of my lesser quality posters (dig dug, gravitar, joust, warlords, tron, ect) to see how they come out with the cheaper method..

I sort of forgot all the posters I picked up over the years.. Not sure what I am going to do with:
crystal casltes
firefox(I have both large and small. leaning towards framing the large)
liberator (ugly poster of a game I like.. )
pole position 2
sky diver

I did find a funny poster. Its about 8 ft tall poster of donna spier. Its signed "to all the atari games guys"(4 or 5 atari employees listed by name).

I wouldn't mount the post to foam core personally, then its forever tied to the foam core.

 

[zfcamaro]

Custom framing can be expensive, but when you have a poster that is worth $300-$1000 you don't really want to throw it in a $10 Wal-Mart frame... And yes I know there are plenty who wouldn't spend that on a poster so you need not comment...

 

[Quazimoto]

I wouldn't mount the post to foam core personally, then its forever tied to the foam core.

If its mounted with archival removable mount to acid free foam core there will be no problem removing it at a later time if you need to sell it.

 

[MWC]

Your posters really have amazing artwork. I love it! Thanks for sharing.

 

[rainman154]

I collect original movie posters and I have been to Michael's Craft Store MANY times to get them framed.
Here is the deal with them. You ONLY want to go there when they are having a sale. Otherwise it is SO expensive.
I have had bad experience elsewhere in getting a "cheaper" frame job done. They have actually ruined a few of my posters including an Original Disney Alice In Wonderland. Yeah that sucked.
I did frame a very rare Jaws poster that I put a LOT of money into. Two acid free matts and non glare glass. It was well over $200 for the frame job alone. But in the end, the poster is preserved and looks excellent.
I also did a bunch of my original Abbott and Costello posters. They look so nice when done by Michael's. I guess my LOOOOOONG drawn out point is that you get what you pay for at Michael's. They are worth it when they are on sale. Get the non glare glass. It will save your picture from any sun damage too.

Here are a few pics of some of the ones I had done at Michael's.

 

[Quazimoto]

I collect original movie posters and I have been to Michael's Craft Store MANY times to get them framed.
Here is the deal with them. You ONLY want to go there when they are having a sale. Otherwise it is SO expensive.
I have had bad experience elsewhere in getting a "cheaper" frame job done. They have actually ruined a few of my posters including an Original Disney Alice In Wonderland. Yeah that sucked.
I did frame a very rare Jaws poster that I put a LOT of money into. Two acid free matts and non glare glass. It was well over $200 for the frame job alone. But in the end, the poster is preserved and looks excellent.
I also did a bunch of my original Abbott and Costello posters. They look so nice when done by Michael's. I guess my LOOOOOONG drawn out point is that you get what you pay for at Michael's. They are worth it when they are on sale. Get the non glare glass. It will save your picture from any sun damage too.

Here are a few pics of some of the ones I had done at Michael's.

They look great !!!!!!! One point to make.......Non Glare Glass is not going to protect your posters unless they have UV Filter coating. Non glare and UV filter glass are two different issues. Non glare means less light reflection and will make the picture look alittle blurry because its an etched glass........UV filter means protection from the sun. You can have UV filter Non glare glass as well as UV filter plain glass. Tru Vue is the brand used and you should have a sticker on the back of the framing that has the brand(tru vue) and marked which glass was used. It is a silver and blue sticker. There is a newer type of glass from Tru Vue called AR or Museum glass. It has a UV filter coating and is NOT etched. Much better clarity for colors and art but is more expensive. It could push your $200 frame job to $275-$325 range easily.

 

[rainman154]

Agreed. The non glare is the way to go. It looks so much nicer in a room with windows or direct lighting.

 

[DogP]

Those look really good, but wow... I can't see spending that kinda money on frames. I guess I'm too cheap to buy expensive posters too though. Here's my "custom" frame I just made a few minutes ago for my Star Wars poster. It's just a $6.99 poster frame from Target, trimmed to the right size... turned out good enough for me . The joysticks poster was a direct fit, so I can't call that "custom" .

DogP

 

[rainman154]

Those look really good, but wow... I can't see spending that kinda money on frames. I guess I'm too cheap to buy expensive posters too though. Here's my "custom" frame I just made a few minutes ago for my Star Wars poster. It's just a $6.99 poster frame from Target, trimmed to the right size... turned out good enough for me . The joysticks poster was a direct fit, so I can't call that "custom" .

DogP

"JOYSTICKS"... that's great.
You just brought up another great point... size. Most places only have frames that are for reproduction posters 40 X 26 (I think). If you get a theater poster, most likely it is 41 x 27 (I think) can't remember off the top of my head. So that is another reason to do a custom frame job. But if you are not as anal about posters as I am, then cut it down or fold it and you can find some very cheat and nice looking frames.
The same can be said for the actual poster itself. There are some very nice reproductions out there (some are CRAP!). So you don't have to drop hundreds of bucks for a "classic" poster when you could find it for $10 as a repo.

 

[mrbill2084]

I collect original movie posters and I have been to Michael's Craft Store MANY times to get them framed.
Here is the deal with them. You ONLY want to go there when they are having a sale. Otherwise it is SO expensive.
I have had bad experience elsewhere in getting a "cheaper" frame job done. They have actually ruined a few of my posters including an Original Disney Alice In Wonderland. Yeah that sucked.
I did frame a very rare Jaws poster that I put a LOT of money into. Two acid free matts and non glare glass. It was well over $200 for the frame job alone. But in the end, the poster is preserved and looks excellent.
I also did a bunch of my original Abbott and Costello posters. They look so nice when done by Michael's. I guess my LOOOOOONG drawn out point is that you get what you pay for at Michael's. They are worth it when they are on sale. Get the non glare glass. It will save your picture from any sun damage too.

Here are a few pics of some of the ones I had done at Michael's.

The abbott and costello meets frankenstein poster is very cool..

michael's calls the glass masterpiece. Its tru vue, both uv and anti glare. I don't really like it. Its not that much of a difference in glare, and I think it makes the print look diffused.. Not worth the extra $52 for it for the 24x36 centipede..

If that star wars print is an original, you really should treat it better. you don't want the plastic touching the paper. Thats why you need spacers to give some distance away from the print.

I will probably visit aaron brothers on tuesday to see if they have any stock 27x41 frames. If not to get an idea on their custom framing.

 

[DogP]

If that star wars print is an original, you really should treat it better. you don't want the plastic touching the paper. Thats why you need spacers to give some distance away from the print.

My Star Wars isn't original... it's one of the small translite reprints BillyBob did a while back, that Nash sent to me (Free Friday). It looked okay backlit, but I think it looks better just as a plain poster.

DogP

 

[mrbill2084]

finally got the last framed print back. Joust was really bad and I was happy how it turned out. this one had to be glued down on foam board. This one is in masterpiece glass. I was going to put the atari classics in this frame. Frame was already made, and joust happened to fit..

They did such a nice job with the 2 prints in rough shape, I am going to dig through my pile of rough prints to see if any of them would be worth framing..

 

[koolmoecraig]

personally I would look at what the cost is for the frame (with glass), foam core mounting and if necessary matting. Personally I buy the frame myself, cut the mat myself and just fit the poster or picture in the frame. The foam backing would be nice and make it look that much more professional but I'm generally cheap. Personally I couldn't imagine paying $150 to frame one poster or pic but I know plenty of people pay in that range.

Personally I could care less about a real wood frame vs cheap wood look alike as long as the look alike looks good. I would not pay for anti glare. I just don't think it's worth it. Just place the picture where the lighting does not cause glare. I don't really know about acid free backing. I figure we have stored these items thus far without any special container other than maybe a cardboard tube. I guess the question is how much longer life will the acid free backing give? Personally I'm thinking I could live without it.

Personally, eh?

 

[rainman154]

finally got the last framed print back. Joust was really bad and I was happy how it turned out. this one had to be glued down on foam board. This one is in masterpiece glass. I was going to put the atari classics in this frame. Frame was already made, and joust happened to fit..

They did such a nice job with the 2 prints in rough shape, I am going to dig through my pile of rough prints to see if any of them would be worth framing..

Very nice print!

 

[MythTrip]

That Joust poster is wicked cool. It's too bad no one has done a reproduction run of that poster or the Gravitar, etc.

Thanks for sharing, it looks as if Michaels did a very professional job. As ZF has all ready mentioned, these aren't cheap posters and deserve a quality frame.