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Come on Arc... we don't need yet another thread locked.

Admin & team, could we get a Monitor Repair section added and split off the monitor threads to that section. It would sure help clean up things in the repair area.

I'd even volunteer to temporarily have enough power to move the threads over to the monitor section if you needed the help.

RJ

I really like this idea. If repair was broken down into smaller more focused categories, it might actually be easier to find things. I'm wondering if having one of the repair sub-forums being cabinet restoration questions would be good too. Right now you get them in repair or general and things just seem to get lost. It would be nice to have all the bondo, painting, artwork applying, etc. in one place. General Arcade discussion would be a better place for before and after type stuff to pimp your restored game. But all the details about how do you do it, is in the restoration forum.

I didn't put much time into the list below. It may be way too many subgroups, but I think it is pretty clean separation of items and a good place to start the discussion from. You could start in general if you don't know what is wrong with your game and start a separate thread if it is determined the monitor is hosed and your going to dig into that. Some things overlap like monitor repairs and kits / mods when you talk about an LV6100 mod for a WG6100. It is ok for it to be in either location as either location would be a reasonable forum to search for a monitor mod. Anyway, here are my suggested forums in bold followed by what content they might contain.

General Repair
Questions
Troubleshooting
PCB identification
OT Repairs

Monitor Repair
Chassis
tubes
rejuvenation
parts
tube swaps

Cabinet Restoration
Bondo
paint
artwork
control panels
hardware
etc.

Game Electronics Repair
PCB repair
Power supplies
coin door
marquee lights
control electronics
instrumentation

Kits and Modifications
High score saves
multi-game kits
Monitor mods
PCB switchers

Tool Shed
soldering irons
scopes
probes
rejuvenators
ROM burners
paint sprayers
security bits

-VJ

To me it seems that a lot of other forums use a lot more "sticky" posts... I'm a bit surprised there aren't more basic answers (Monitor Discharge/Cap Kit 101/jamma pinout etc) or an FAQ stuck at the top of the repair section...

I like the ideas presented here, but would like to see the monitors section broken down maybe by the most common models that people are having problems with such as... 4600, 4900, G07, I don't know what my monitor is, etc.
 
I like the ideas presented here, but would like to see the monitors section broken down maybe by the most common models that people are having problems with such as... 4600, 4900, G07, I don't know what my monitor is, etc.

I'm wondering if we should use the tag feature for that instead? We just tag things to be funny in all the drama going on, but we could actually tag a thread with the monitor type, symptom, and solution. It would certainly allow better data mining of the posts after the fact. Also, you can easily tag posts after the fact whereas we would have to be able to move the threads easily once the monitor was identified, etc. Thoughts?
 
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(4) social groups. If the feature was turned on, members could create their own mini forum sections etc, and allow only those members they would want in.


I'd say scrap this idea right away, I'm probably not cool enough, skilled enough, etc. to join any private forum. :) Seems to me that this is asking for trouble. Members could be in there bashing others, yet only members of the clique could access it. Then someone PM's someone saying:

"You won't believe what they are saying about you, you're a bad seller".

Nothing but trouble.

This shit is all really fucking 8th grade anyway, who reports posts? wahhhh wahhhh my feelings are hurt. Grow the fuck up.
 
I like the ideas presented here, but would like to see the monitors section broken down maybe by the most common models that people are having problems with such as... 4600, 4900, G07, I don't know what my monitor is, etc.

That's what the thread tags are for. Search the tags and find the model repair info you need.
 
I'd say scrap this idea right away, I'm probably not cool enough, skilled enough, etc. to join any private forum. :) Seems to me that this is asking for trouble. Members could be in there bashing others, yet only members of the clique could access it. Then someone PM's someone saying:

"You won't believe what they are saying about you, you're a bad seller".

Nothing but trouble.
I agree with this (Edit: Not that you aren't cool enough or skilled enough :D but that adding the private forums would be asking for trouble), plus I think it's inevitable that problems within a private group will spill out into the other forums, which would defeat the purpose.
 
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while we're at it, I'd like to see the forum cleaned up to make it family/work friendly. The Sexual and gay jokes/images/Bruno theme doesn't really belong on an arcade forum imo. Cleaning that up along with the personal attacks would go along way to improving this forum.

Tom
 
(3) a chatroom. Adding a chatroom to the forums is a tough topic. It is inviting a free-for-all, though there are possible plusses
(a) the 'crap' wouldn't get indexed by Google
(b) it might remove some of the banter etc from the boards.... or then again, wars might start there that move to the regular forum sections.
(4) social groups. If the feature was turned on, members could create their own mini forum sections etc, and allow only those members they would want in. And back to the 'banter' problem it might help pull some out of the regular forums. Social groups seems to have extremely mixed success on other forums, which is why it isn't on here already.

I've seen 3 done in a bunch of forums, some that were having issues as an attempt to clear the crap out and some just as something to add. Universally this causes more problems than it solves. As much as in theory it can pull the random unrelated stuff somewhere else, inevitably a bunch of petty personal bullshit happens in the chat room and it spills into the forums. Imagine what's been going on in the last couple weeks x 10 and you're in the ballpark.

4 also seems good in theory but often can lead to a situation where egos and cliquey crap mean that a lot of people wander off in their own forum sections and the rest of the forum dries up content-wise. Might help, but it's a pretty big roll of the dice.

As to fatherpain's suggestion (and I realize I'm an offender under that, if not just based on my sig), I think it's a tricky thing. Is the line just the sexual/gay stuff, or does that include language and other things as well? Is there a specific banned word list in place? How would that line be decided, and would it change over time? Depending on how it was handled, I think it could drive off a bunch of really good, if foul-mouthed, posters as a result. (I don't think I fall under "really good", my ego isn't big enough to think that I am, I'm just periodically helpful and try to stay out of trouble the rest of the time :) )

Not just negative thoughts, though. The idea of a new member forum sounds like a cool idea, I think it could do a lot towards helping folks new to the forums feel welcome and possibly even help them not make a lot of the new member mistakes that happen in any forum.

A monitor specific subforum of repair/help is also great, and cabinet resto, electronics, and tool shed might be good additions as well. General Repair would probably just be what the base repair/help forum functions as. Not sure that we necessarily need one for game mods, that could probably go into general as well without it resulting in too many threads.
 
Hey Admin & team!

The monitor subforum is great! But, the permissions aren't set right on it.

channelmanic, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
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I just moved this thread out of 'Chat About Anything' into 'WebMagic Initiated Topics'.
 
Monitor sub-forum

Speaking of FAQ and sticky threads. I'd be very interested in putting up a bunch of FAQs etc, possibly on the main KLOV site with links here for some of them, though someone has to write them and for a variety of reasons that person isn't me.

Re: The help forum. I'm creating a new thread specifically for the help/tech forum. I know there is a lot of chat about that here, but also about other stuff, and I'd like to keep one single thread on topic about it.
 
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You are a rare poster... I'm getting a lot of people asking for and supporting this, but most of them don't want to get attacked so they contact me privately.

I'm currently looking to see how other boards handle this. Also, my personal current opinion is to allow a little more latitude in the Chat About Almost Anything section than in the other sections (though still no personal attacks).

while we're at it, I'd like to see the forum cleaned up to make it family/work friendly. The Sexual and gay jokes/images/Bruno theme doesn't really belong on an arcade forum imo. Cleaning that up along with the personal attacks would go along way to improving this forum.

Tom
 
Maybe there could be a NC-17 Bruno-esque humor subforum so those people that wish to continue to engage in lewd humor could continue there to their hearts content, with the stipulation it doesn't spill over to the rest of the forums. Anyone visiting the humor subforum would know what their in for. We've lost several prominent contributors to this board because they were turned off to the pervasive vulgarity.

Tom
 
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You are a rare poster... I'm getting a lot of people asking for and supporting this, but most of them don't want to get attacked so they contact me privately.

I'm currently looking to see how other boards handle this. Also, my personal current opinion is to allow a little more latitude in the Chat About Almost Anything section than in the other sections (though still no personal attacks).

Problem is once you start putting a limit on things, people tend to push harder and further on both sides, and it tends to create even more problems... One side will report every perceived innuendo whether real or imagined, while the others will constantly tread that fine line of irritating certain individuals, but never quite go too far.

I wish I had an answer, unfortunately I don't. I'm sure I'm guilty of "crossing the line" myself, but I try to limit that to the Chat About (almost) Anything forum. Maybe that is the best solution, the Chat about anything forum remains more casual, but the rules tighten up in all other forums.
I do think that some people need to learn to use the ignore function, and stick with it once they add someone. I think it would make their lives much better and more stress free. Not everyone in a forum this size is going to get along, nor is everyone going to agree that all language used by some individuals is appropriate. It's really no secret here as to who doesn't get along and to who makes the gay/off color/sexual jokes on a regular basis. Self Moderation would dictate that you are just as responsible for ignoring them as they are for cleaning up their language. I'm not trying to be a jerk about it, but if you have the tools at your disposal and don't use them, then really who has the issue?
 
(3) a chatroom. Adding a chatroom to the forums is a tough topic. It is inviting a free-for-all, though there are possible plusses
(a) the 'crap' wouldn't get indexed by Google
(b) it might remove some of the banter etc from the boards.... or then again, wars might start there that move to the regular forum sections.

Have you guys just thought of making the CAAA forum hidden till you log in? Another forum I read has it like that. Its a easy thing to do, so Google Bots and non-members can't read it. Some of the posts in the past year have been about some serious life issues.
 
I like the ideas presented here, but would like to see the monitors section broken down maybe by the most common models that people are having problems with such as... 4600, 4900, G07, I don't know what my monitor is, etc.

I'm wondering if we should use the tag feature for that instead? We just tag things to be funny in all the drama going on, but we could actually tag a thread with the monitor type, symptom, and solution. It would certainly allow better data mining of the posts after the fact. Also, you can easily tag posts after the fact whereas we would have to be able to move the threads easily once the monitor was identified, etc. Thoughts?

That's what the thread tags are for. Search the tags and find the model repair info you need.

Can we visit the search function. Tags are rarely added to threads and therefore useless to search. The search function does not allow 3 character words as search criteria. This needs to be visited. For example, if you enter G07, G05, RAM, ROM, 720, cap locations, etc., the list goes on and on of the 3 characters that would need to be searched.

When you search with one of these it eliminates that 3 character word from the search thus creating a longer list to search through. As a result, you cannot effectively get your search results and end up starting a new thread or spending a lot of time digging through the search results to see if any really show what you are looking for.
 
There seems to be a problem here. In the admin configuration there are settings for min. word length that gets indexed. It was set to 4 characters. A week ago I changed it to 3, then reindexed the whole board per vbulletin instructions, and it still doesn't work...

When you search with one of these it eliminates that 3 character word from the search thus creating a longer list to search through. As a result, you cannot effectively get your search results and end up starting a new thread or spending a lot of time digging through the search results to see if any really show what you are looking for.
 
In addition to chat or social groups, other areas could be set up where abusive posts or banter could occur... in anothr forum section. Such a forum could be closed to new users and have to be explicity joined by any member. Then it would automatically be avoided by new members by default, and by Google...
I like this idea. Although, I don't normally participate in political or otherwise contentious threads, I do read a number of them and find some of the viewpoints expressed to be quite interesting. I think it would be nice if there were a section like this, particularly because it would allow threads of this nature to wind down of their own volition, rather than being locked before someone has had a chance to complete their line of thought. A new thread, recycling the same topic, always seems to be initiated down the road as a result.

I think the 'Laughs' section could be eliminated (since it is little used - most of the content it is intended for, goes straight to CAAA) and be replaced with something like this.

RE: Joking in the forums -
I do think that some people need to learn to use the ignore function

Self Moderation would dictate that you are just as responsible for ignoring them as they are for cleaning up their language.

if you have the tools at your disposal and don't use them, then really who has the issue?
I agree.

How does one go about dictating humor, anyway? It is such a subjective thing. I, personally, would be really sad if some of the lighter aspects I enjoy around here were to vanish.

I would much rather someone simply decide, 'You know what? This guy/gal just isn't for me', and click ignore.
 
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