Seems fair to me.
Seems easy enough to follow. I like it.
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Seems easy enough to follow. I like it.
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Sounds good, but how about something in there about posting items for sale in the general discussion forum?
Done. Good idea.
I wish that people would put the state in the title too.
I understand that a number of users prefer machines that they can pick up. I'd add it as a suggestion and only as a rule if that is what the community wanted. (see below)
I disagree with the idea that the seller must open up a path to offer examples of pricing. Why? How is the same game selling on ebay or CL for 1/2 the price not a valid comparison?
I don't think I may understand your point, or maybe you didn't read what I wrote accurately or maybe I didn't write it clearly. It says that if the seller tries to make a price comparison himself, then other people can too (including mentioning eBay or CL).
I also disagree the notion that seller being a hobbyist or dealer should have any effect on the price of a game. Why would a game from a dealer be worth more?
Because a dealer has overhead. It's the same reason you have different wholesale and retail prices on used cars.
Whether or not it makes a difference to you is a different matter. In Los Angeles, for example, many TV shows' "green rooms" have arcade games in them. Those corporate buyers almost always buy or rent from dealers, and for them it really isn't more expensive. The extra price possibly paid is offset by the removal of risk and hassle in buying from an individual. With a dealer, you have a single vendor relationship (which an accounting department likes), and someone who will show up when you need a quick repair. Many celebrities and upper income people feel the same way. They don't want to buy machines from a variety of people, and then when something breaks they want the solution to be a single phone call away.
Obviously the people on these forums tend not to be the ones keeping Gene Lewin or BMI gaming in business.
Personally, I think your official list should be much less "wordy".
Probably, but easier said than done
I disagree with this section also (forum wrangling).
This was an attempt to preempt another possible problem. Solving a problem that hasn't happened yet might be unnecessary. Plus, for every rule created an extra burden is placed on the moderators to attempt to enforce them in an ongoing and consistent manner. Rockin' Rick (below) had an idea for simpler language: to allow only one new FS thread a day per user.
I'll strike the section wrangling section, and may or may not post the allow once per day language. (addressed below)
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Thanks, fixed.
…more…banter…in…FS threads
I don't know where to go with this comment…
I think this is long overdue. I endorse those guidelines whole heartedly. Sign me up. ken
Thank you.
1) I would like to see a standardized Prefix added to all titles: FA - For Auction, FS - For Sale, FT - For Trade….
2) Right after the prefix (see above) should be where the items are located, especially if they are large items (game cabinets, monitors, filing cabinets full of manuals, etc.) where shipping becomes an issue. Even just a state abbreviation would help.
3) Thread hijacking. If someone is selling something similar … please consider creating a separate thread.
1 & 2: That is one I'd like to get more feedback on. Either I'll create another poll or a thread.
3. I'll see what I can do. I like the concept. The guideline page is exactly 10,000 characters, which is the limit for any post (unless I use my super-powers). I've been sticking to the limit, so if I add something about 'Similar Items' I'll have to take away words elsewhere (which isn't bad).
Perhaps a better rule would be to only allow one new FS thread a day. Rick
I think this is the answer…or to strike the language entirely. I'll revisit this.
Just add the ability for the OP to edit the title so they can say updated whenever or new items added. A seller should really have the ability to edit a thread.
Also, once an item is sold why not lock the thread? Don't delete, it is cool to look at old ads sometimes but no need to have them come back or have them used for personal discussions.
A user being able to edit the title of a thread does not seem to be a vbulletin option (on a per section basis that is). I really wish it was. It might be possible with a 3rd party hack, but every hack installed causes potential upgrade issues later.
Another option not apparently not available in vbulletin is the ability to moderator your own threads. It seems like the perfect ability in a FS section.
As far as locking a thread when an item is sold… there may be a way here without causing other problems. It's a research item on my side.
… make a print friendly (maybe a PDF)…
I'll look into this.
I think he meant the whole policy... and that a poll would be more representative of how people who post here really feel...
A poll would be no more perfect. It doesn't include the people who have been chased off the board and have stated they are willing to come back if things are cleaned up a little.
It also doesn't deal with multiple variables—that is some people might like some parts of the policy and not other parts and a poll doesn't work great for that. Most of the sentences are common sense anyway.
A better use for a forum poll is on a single or just a few simple concepts (ie: should people put FS /FT and location in their post titles?)
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