Fizgig selling all?

Highly agreed. This will be a litmus test of sorts, IMO.

I feel like a section of the market has come to value original cabs/parts a bit more (vs repro) in the time since he left here, but that's just my mostly subjective and highly unscientific opinion.

Will be hard to use as a test because you have people who buy crap 60-1 conversions for $2500... They would probably buy a "repro" for too much as well.
 
Yes, and that still tells you that there is a market.

There is definitely a market.

The question is, would a real collector want a repro?

The only thing I would reproduce would be the cabinet/art itself or some of the parts. I want a real board, monitor and original controls (when possible).

My preference is as original as possible, but some times that's just not feasible.
 
There is definitely a market.

The question is, would a real collector want a repro?

The only thing I would reproduce would be the cabinet/art itself or some of the parts. I want a real board, monitor and original controls (when possible).

My preference is as original as possible, but some times that's just not feasible.



I generally agree. I think it's a pretty subjective question though, especially right now, and we all have our own 'tolerance levels' for how much repro we're ok with (and by 'we', I mean 'real collectors', i.e., the people in this community).

And I don't mean it in a pejorative way, as preferences vary. I don't think there's a clear cut answer though, as some collectors have been happy to have any art, for much of the past, up till now. (Esp when it came down to the choice between repro or nothing.)

But now that there is so much repro stuff available, and people now realize they have choices, I think originality is being looked at in a slightly different light by a lot of folks. More folks are willing to keep that less-than-perfect sideart or CPO, etc, because it is original. And you're starting to see more people who are willing to pay more for that originality, while others are still happy to get new repro stuff for less in many cases.

But my point is that it's an organic thing, and is evolving, as it does in a lot of collectible hobbies. What I wonder is whether or not our hobby will evolve to the point where repro is considered VERY undesirable, and the price gap between original and repro becomes huge (as it is for other antique collectibles like musical instruments, cars, etc).

It's an interesting time in the hobby.
 
But now that there is so much repro stuff available, and people now realize they have choices, I think originality is being looked at in a slightly different light by a lot of folks. More folks are willing to keep that less-than-perfect sideart or CPO, etc, because it is original. And you're starting to see more people who are willing to pay more for that originality, while others are still happy to get new repro stuff for less in many cases.

I agree, my thinking has shifted over the years in both directions, it just really depends on what I'm starting with. If I'm starting with a cabinet that is painted all black and the art isn't salvageable, then I'll go the repro route.

I've also purchased a lot of repro art over the years that I haven't used because while the original isn't perfect, it's good enough. My Sinistar has a cigarette burn on it and a bit of cracking but my repro overlay still sits, unapplied.

My Stargate was converted, the overlay turned into Swiss cheese, so I replaced it.

Right now I'm really torn on my Kickman. The art is far from perfect, but it's still there. I've been spraying it with Kryon Triple Thick to protect it. Those who would want a 100% perfect cab would have stripped it down and applied the repro side art. My issue with the repro art is that it's not like the original (Original is Screen Printed on the cab, Repro is a sticker).

Fizzgig probably would have replaced everything on this cab by now :p

I have a Jungle King cabinet that is probably beyond saving (Particle Board that has lots of water damage). I'll probably use the cabinet as a template to build a new one.

I have a Major Havoc conversion in a Tempest cab. Probably going to move it to a reproduction Tempest Cabinet because the current cabinet is (again) particle board and the sides are swollen. I actually have NOS Conversion Side Art that I'll apply at some point too.

But my point is that it's an organic thing, and is evolving, as it does in a lot of collectible hobbies. What I wonder is whether or not our hobby will evolve to the point where repro is considered VERY undesirable, and the price gap between original and repro becomes huge (as it is for other antique collectibles like musical instruments, cars, etc).

It's an interesting time in the hobby.

Personally, I'll take original over reproduction when I can, but if all I can get is the PCB, then repro it will be... There are also a lot of games that only came a conversion kits. Those I would have no problem making reproduction everything for.
 
There is definitely a market.

The question is, would a real collector want a repro?

The only thing I would reproduce would be the cabinet/art itself or some of the parts. I want a real board, monitor and original controls (when possible).

My preference is as original as possible, but some times that's just not feasible.

His have real boards, monitors, and original controls. And some have original sideart and control panel overlays. It's just the cabinets that are often new.

This is like politics or religion; people have deeply held beliefs that at times don't make much sense but they believe them passionately.

Everyone agrees that an original cabinet with original boards, monitor, sideart, and control panel is the best thing to have.

But some people object violently to a reproduction cabinet with original boards, monitor, sideart, and control panels / CPOs.

And others are okay with an original cabinet with reproduction everything else (wiring harnesses, sideart, control panels, CPOs, non-original monitors, etc).

I don't think one can really discuss and resolve this any more than they can religious or political differences; people just feel how they feel.
 
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I think most people objected to him gutting original good condition games and building new cabinets rather than fixing the originals up.

I don't really care either way.

Mostly I thought he was just obnoxious.
 
I think he's just selling off duplicates he has of games. He just expanded his garage-cade by 1500 sf. Pretty sure he's not getting out of the hobby by any means.

Sounds like some one-of-a-kind stuff in the upcoming list. Snakepit, Team Hat Trick, Qberts Qubes, Bomb Jack, Midnight Marauders, etc. Maybe it's just filler stuff to him. Maybe he's getting out 100%. He hinted at opening up his own museum. Maybe doing so was too tall of an order, given the red tape and his short fuse.
 
I wish Fizgig and his family well.

I like to thank management who went above and beyond to keep him here. It was truly a great effort multiple times.

While I could go back and forth on the man's history, I rather not. There are more important things to do. If I wanted to know what he was/is doing, I would call him and find out.

I hope his sales go well.
 
I wish Fizgig and his family well.

I like to thank management who went above and beyond to keep him here. It was truly a great effort multiple times.

While I could go back and forth on the man's history, I rather not. There are more important things to do. If I wanted to know what he was/is doing, I would call him and find out.

I hope his sales go well.

You wish everyone well. Some day I'll come to CAX and look you up and shake your hand. :)
 
I wonder how many people will skim that list of games and then say OOOH! MS. PAC!!!

I also think it's an amazing game list and like that he has Slither, but he better post pics of the box if he knows what's good for him........
 
Lol another one gone... Sad I missed this explosion.

Repo cabinets should be noted.

And imho are not worth the same as all original.

I feel people who know, will be like car collectors...

A salvage title or vin swap junker are not worth as much as pristine all original.

Don't think I have ever talked to him... But looks like this place is staying on top of cleaning house. Good deal.


In b4 the lock.
 
Does US ebay not have offers on for selling? I'm in the UK, and UK ebay has £1 maximum Final Fee with no insertion fee for upwards of 100 items.

They're doing it quite often, so it's pretty good to list high value items.
 
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