Fizgig banned - a civil discussion

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I couldn't really understand what you are saying. But if a guy is going to shoot off at the mouth he should be prepared to eat one. Additionally, the guy that can't control himself and throws the punch should be prepared for arrest and a lawsuit.

basically is that people online are big and tough behind the keyboard but in the real world they would never talk to someone like face to face. [i hope]

so online they keep trolling someone and when they hits back instead of dealing with it, they hit the "report post" button.

note: has previously stated before I'm not aware of what fiz said or done I'm generalizing.
 
It matters/is relevant because all the damn drama and trolling in his threads from people who either hated his methods or were jealous of his apparent disposable income obviously escalated things and put him on the defensive.

Bingo!

Rep 4 U!
 
My online and real life personas are more or less 1:1, so take this as me saying in person to everyone here that I am baffled as to why this thread is still going.

The repro/resto conversation has been beaten to death, and regardless of how strongly you feel about it, we're not going to quash discussion regarding multicades, MAME, repro parts, etc. Having another dozen people weigh in isn't going to change a thing.

fizgig was banned because his behavior was inappropriate, plain and simple. Trying to somehow tip the scales in his favor by talking about others instigating things is ridiculous. 'But he started it' wasn't a good excuse when you were ten and surprise, surprise, it sounds even sillier coming from grown adults. Keep in mind that this is in the context of mods (and users!) confirming that infractions have been handed out many times in regards to those who were involved in 'starting it'. No one is getting off the hook here, but fizgig took things to another level. If someone would give him even a mild criticism he'd fly off the handle and at the same time he was constantly reporting people for said minor criticisms. His pulling his reproduction artwork from stores is just the cherry on top of his immature behavior.
 
It matters/is relevant because all the damn drama and trolling in his threads from people who either hated his methods or were jealous of his apparent disposable income obviously escalated things and put him on the defensive.

So to be clear: Fiz was not to blame for being a dick, it was the people who "made him that way" by being insanely jealous of his huge bank account? WTF?

The word Jealous got thrown around a lot by Kaneda too, as a way to rationalize why everyone thought he was a dick. For the record, I'm not jealous of anybody on this forum. But I still call a spade a spade. There are guys one here with incredible collections/arcades etc that are not douche's, no one piles onto them and "pokes the bear" to get them banned out of jealousy. What made Fiz so special? Same thing that made Kaneda so special I reckon. A massive ego and a drive fueled by a narcissistic need for universal admiration, combined with a complete lack of respect for others and an inability to accept anyone with a different perspective.

The mis-use of the word restoration is a minor detail in why this man was deemed unworthy of these boards and is a point that's really not worth debating, no one is going to convince anyone on the opposite side that their perspective is the "right" perspective, simple as that.

But on the other hand, it's good that this tired subject is being battled out one last time in this thread, and it's comforting to know that there will not be another "XXXXX: A FizGig RESTORATION" thread coming out tomorrow that will trigger the exact same debate all over again. From my perspective, that makes this forum a MUCH better place.
 
If the guy was super nice, willing to help anybody, everybody, and carried himself respectfully , and treated everybody with respect. If the the guy was slam dancing the archives with art for everybody to enjoy, and help them in the future with there projects, if the guy was reading other peoples threads and commenting how great there work came out, and offering up useful tips on how to get around difficult situations. If he was posting up parts he wasn't using in the trade section, or offering up stuff he might throw away. If he read your thread, and PM you and said I have that, you can come grab it, I'll give it to you! If
He PM you and said I see your interested in something local to me and really need it, I can grab, wrap and ship it to you.

If he was the nicest guy on earth,
I really really think, and I truly believe this so don't bother trying to convince me that wrong, wether people agreed or disagreed about the dudes style. Everybody would have been fine with that guy! Even if he builds new cabs god sake, and comes over to feed your dog while your on vacation!!! Love that guy!!!

Even if he is elected president and is going to have a arcade party at camp David and he's going to have us all flown down there! You really think somebody would again and again troll that guys thread and keep screwing with him even if he was a freakin saint!

I've never met the guy, never interacted with the guy. By chance ended up in his thread by search, never was I interested in ANYTHING he did because of the way he acted out towards people

Plain and simple, the guy was an asshole, that's why people gave him a hard time.. We don't need to pretend anymore...
 
Some folks must believe the rules do not apply to them like the guy who just posted a game FS in the general section and then had the stones to put right in the post that the FS section doesnt get enough traffic so thats why he posted there.

unreal.....

Is this forum about the rules, or is it about the hobby?

Each of us 'big boys' are resilient enough to weather through an eccentric personality. I don't like Fizgigs knockoff's, in fact, I think each of them should be cattle-branded with 'A FIZGIG KNOCKOFF' logo burned right into the MDF - lest he endeavor to sell them in the future and they pollute the stock...at least then they can be spotted for what they are.

Having said that....the forum should be about the Hobby, not about who wins a personality and reputation throw-down with the moderators. 'Contempt of Exidy' is not a legitimate forum rule violation.

For the moderator....if you are a warehouse raid and you refuse to let a guy in because he is wearing flip flops instead of sneakers, you are surely missing the point.
 
Is this forum about the rules, or is it about the hobby?

Each of us 'big boys' are resilient enough to weather through an eccentric personality. I don't like Fizgigs knockoff's, in fact, I think each of them should be cattle-branded with 'A FIZGIG KNOCKOFF' logo burned right into the MDF - lest he endeavor to sell them in the future and they pollute the stock...at least then they can be spotted for what they are.

Having said that....the forum should be about the Hobby, not about who wins a personality and reputation throw-down with the moderators. 'Contempt of Exidy' is not a legitimate forum rule violation.

For the moderator....if you are a warehouse raid and you refuse to let a guy in because he is wearing flip flops instead of sneakers, you are surely missing the point.

I'm afraid you sir are missing the point and your statements make zero sense. Sadly, Inernet forums need moderation. If not, it would be constant Lord of the Flies like the old RGVAC days.
 
I'm afraid you sir are missing the point and your statements make zero sense. Sadly, Inernet forums need moderation. If not, it would be constant Lord of the Flies like the old RGVAC days.

I kinda missed artfromny and whoever was selling condom machines.
 
What if a member of this forum cursed your mother out, would that be all cool and great because he sold you a cool joystick for cheapz?
 
I'm afraid you sir are missing the point and your statements make zero sense. Sadly, Inernet forums need moderation. If not, it would be constant Lord of the Flies like the old RGVAC days.

Man, do i miss those days. We have rules now? Shit, im an old guy, i expect the bickering, dickering, backstabbing, and name calling that comes with a forum. Without it, you end up with a dead forum and a few hang-on members. Those forums are sad. But im an old mirc and bbs guy. flame wars, ddos retaliation, and forged friendships made it great. Let the stupid bastard back in. I can handle nasty pms. I can google arcade cabs if i want to see warehouse raid pics, i come to klov for the drama and show! Now someone put up the damn popcorn gif already.
 
What if a member of this forum cursed your mother out, would that be all cool and great because he sold you a cool joystick for cheapz?

Is it tricked out with sanwa and custom buttons? Then she IS a filthy whore.
 
What if a member of this forum cursed your mother out, would that be all cool and great because he sold you a cool joystick for cheapz?

If this was even remotely close to a comparison? Cheap joysticks, I think he brought much more to the hobby. Bring him back? If I was him I wouldnt come back would you? I would do exactly what he is doing and I believe most on here if not all would do the same.
 
If this was even remotely close to a comparison? Cheap joysticks, I think he brought much more to the hobby. Bring him back? If I was him I wouldnt come back would you? I would do exactly what he is doing and I believe most on here if not all would do the same.

Delete all of his pictures and pull all of his artwork for sale from TOG because someone might benefit from it that needed to do a restoration?

Really? You'd do that?

I don't know that I'd return here if I were him if the ban was rescinded but the actions above seem incredibly juvenile to me.
 
Delete all of his pictures and pull all of his artwork for sale from TOG because someone might benefit from it that needed to do a restoration?

Really? You'd do that?

I don't know that I'd return here if I were him if the ban was rescinded but the actions above seem incredibly juvenile to me.

Yep I would , If i contributed the way I see he did and I got kicked out the game all my equipment leaves with me, after seeing this I have already changed my thinking about giving freely anything i reproduce. Sorry thats just reality
 
Knowing that people that badgered me and picked at me and pushed me to my limit might benefit from my work ??? Who needs it, go ahead and tell me how more righteous you are , wear the shoe once and we will see
 
Pulling his images from his previous posts speak volumes about the guy. The removal of the photos is indefensible and incredibly childish.
 
Knowing that people that badgered me and picked at me and pushed me to my limit might benefit from my work ??? Who needs it, go ahead and tell me how more righteous you are , wear the shoe once and we will see

There's just a handful of people here that badgered him as you put it, out of thousands of collectors. Do you really think that purist collectors will be buying inkjet arts for their dedicated cabs anyway?

I stand by my comments -- that's childish behavior.
 
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