first cab painting...lesson learned

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so far...do not use kilz2 or zissner bullseye. The finish is very hard to sand and rolled on it was not very smooth. My next step will be to strip the cab again and use regular automotive spray primer and paint. I don't know what the roller secret is but I won't roll again. Off to the store for stripper and primer....
 
Give it time to harden then sand it flat with 80 or 100 grit quality sandpaper on an electric sander. Stripper will be more mess. You can then spray a couple more coats of primer over what you sand. The RustOleum rattle can grey or white automotive primer is great for what you're doing.
 
so far...do not use kilz2 or zissner bullseye. The finish is very hard to sand and rolled on it was not very smooth. My next step will be to strip the cab again and use regular automotive spray primer and paint. I don't know what the roller secret is but I won't roll again. Off to the store for stripper and primer....

Was it latex or oil based? What type of roller? Did you thin the primer? How many coats? Have you done this before? etc. Zinsser and kilz are both excellent primers.
 
The kilz 2 was put on awhile back but I do know that it was water cleanup. Trying to sand it some months later with 180 grit was an exercise in frustration. The zissner is also water based. It was only put on a couple days ago and just rolls up when trying to sand. It does not sand easy either. I think that my best bet is going to the auto store and get a quart of primer and reducer and spray it. It could be that I need to wait longer to sand the zissner. I like to prime and sand asap. I should be able to fill, prime and block a cab in half a day or so. I wanted to do it on the cheap as far as paint goes but I guess that is not going to be the case. As far as rolling I used smooth finish foam rollers and added floetrol to the zissner.
 
Water based won't sand well. It's more than likely intended for use on drywall, that sort of stuff - not for real 'finishes'. I'm not surprised it rolls and clogs the paper. What I'd do is sand it back down with 60 or 80 grit, just to get it mostly sanded, flat and clean. Then spray a primer on it, like you said or rattle cans. Use oil based or automotive type and not a water based/latex primer.
 
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I'm sure there is a way to get good results with latex and a roller but I can't seem to figure it out. I went and bought some primer and thinner from the auto store. I only had to strip the front lower portion of the cab. Im back to square one and ready to prime. Pics to follow....


Thanks guys!


Water based won't sand well. It's more than likely intended for use on drywall, that sort of stuff - not for real 'finishes'. I'm not surprised it rolls and clogs the paper. What I'd do is sand it back down with 60 or 80 grit, just to get it mostly sanded, flat and clean. Then spray a primer on it, like you said or rattle cans. Use oil based or automotive type and not a water based/latex primer.
 
I'm sure there is a way to get good results with latex and a roller but I can't seem to figure it out. I went and bought some primer and thinner from the auto store. I only had to strip the front lower portion of the cab. Im back to square one and ready to prime. Pics to follow....


Thanks guys!

Latex has come a long way, water based finishes are actually used in fine woodworking, but for what you want to do, no there's not a great way to get good results with latex and a roller on a cabinet restoration. While some guys can get good results, as a primer, it's just not a good choice. Oil/alkyd or urethane primer will actually sand well between coats. If you have the option of spraying, spray the primer, as using a roller WILL be less smooth, which you can sand flat, but it's just more work. With a slick spray finish, you'll have very little sanding before the finish is applied.
 
I have realization about why I was having problems painting with a foam roller recently. I has used acetone as a thinner, which works great, but it weakens the foam roller and I was getting foam bits in the paint.

Lesson learned:
Don't use Acetone with a foam roller!
 
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