Fats and the furious error

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Fast and the furious error

Fast and the furious 2 games linked.
# 2 comes powers up and goes to attract mode.
# 1 displays only "No signal detected, check signal cable"

My question is what could be the causes of this other than a bad or disconnected ethernet cable ?

Anyone know of a link to online troubleshooting flowchart or manual.

Thanks for your time.
 
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Is the game playing blind?

If not, my experience with the F&F games with this issue:

1) One of the exhaust fans is shorting and is easy to fix.

2) The video card died (sucks). They are older and hard to find as you cannot upgrade them with newer cards. You can still buy them through Betson but they charge $$$$$. I have had some take out the CPU as well when they pop. Not fun.
 
Boot the game into the setup mode and make sure your network settings didnt get changed. This happened once with the F&F at my CEC and it turned out that one got reset to factory settings and couldnt see the other unit because they were both marked "Driver 1"
 
Manuals are here:

http://www.betson.com/service/amusementItem.php?id=44&vendname=Raw Thrills

I have two F & F Drift linked at a theater. Every so often one of them will display "no signal". What I've found happening is the computer has turned itself off for some reason. You can either drop down the control panel and push the computer's power on switch, or you take take off the cabinet back door and reach around to push the computer power on switch. Game works fine then.
 
the cars in this revision of the game have diabetes and circulatory problems though..

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sorry man, i couldnt help myself...
 
Fast and the furious 2 games linked.
# 2 comes powers up and goes to attract mode.
# 1 displays only "No signal detected, check signal cable"

My question is what could be the causes of this other than a bad or disconnected ethernet cable ?

Anyone know of a link to online troubleshooting flowchart or manual.

Thanks for your time.

Oh where to begin...

F&F's have terrible computer components within that PC case. The mother board, video card and power supply all suffer from bad caps. No signal means that the PC isnt outputting a signal to the monitor. You can try to manually turn on the computer by pressing the power button on the front of the PC case but chances are very good that you have bad caps on the video card and maybe the mother board too.

You can try to fix the computer yourself or send it in to a Raw Thrills distributor and have them fix it. Keep in mind that the game only runs on particular hardware, you cant just install the software on any random board. It has to be specific Mobo/CPU/Video card combination's. If your Mobo is the only thing thats bad then this will fix the game but you will need to reinstall the software (http://tinyurl.com/yaz92n2). If the video card is also bad your going to need to find a 5500FX, 5700LE or a 6200LE to put in its place.

You can also replace everything in the computer with a GeForce 6100 based mobo, any AM2+ CPU and a Nvidia 7300LE (it HAS to be a 7300LE!!!).

I've had to fix over 100 of these computers for our route. They are complete trash.

You will also need a copy of version 2.02 or better F&F restore software. You will have to install the software on the other game if it doesnt already have 2.02 on it.

Feel free to ask any questions.

Matt
 
I've had to fix over 100 of these computers for our route. They are complete trash.



Agreed. I've found that preemptive fan replacing on the video
cards goes a long way. The original fans don't last long. I recap
the cards and install heavy duty heat sink/fan combos.
 
Fast and the Furious

Does anyone know the boot priority in bios for the F&F game. I had version 1.6 and I bought the restore disc with 1.8 and it should be compatible according to Betson, but when I restored it, the bios got changed. It acts like it wants to boot up and on the top left it shows found it but it reboots over and over.

Any help would really be appreciated.
 
CDROM drive first then hard drive. That message your seeing about "found it" is the security dongle being found. Its probably rebooting because of another hardware failure though (most cases its the video card but in others its also the mother board). Take a look at the caps around the ATX12V connector (the 4 pin connector close to the CPU). If the caps are swollen then that mother board is bad. If ANY of the caps are swollen on the video card they either need to be replaced or the entire card needs to be replaced.

Betson should have sold you version 2.02 of the game software which is compatible with more hardware configurations then 1.6 and 1.8.

If need be you can replace the mother board, CPU, RAM and video card but you have to buy specific parts.

Raw Thrills made a Dell replacement for Drift, Super Bikes and Big Buck Hunter Pro but some how FORGOT about F&F1...

Matt
 
Resurrecting this thread solely because I'm dealing with these now as well. I've been doing some side work for an operator who has a pair of Tokyo Drifts and a pair of Superbikes. One of the Drifts occasionally gives the no signal error, it just works at random. Just got a call this morning, apparently 3 of the 4 games are doing the same thing now. Nice to know now that the hardware is crap. Guess I'll try capping the video cards first. Is there a cap list for these?
 
There were so many boards used in these machines that theres really no way of coming up wit an accurate cap list. Start with the caps that are obvious and work from there.

However, I've found that the biggest problem is the crappy power supply used in the Microtel PC's. The first supply was 200 Watts and was for sure smaller then the load requirements put on it. The second supply was 270 but still too small. If I HAD to keep MicroTels in these games I'd go and buy a named brand 550+watt power supply and stick it on top of the PC case. Run the wires into the case and hope it lasts longer then 4 weeks.

But, as I'm sure you've read this thread you know that I dont even bother with the MicroTel's anymore. I've been buying used Dell Optiplex 740's and putting them in all my RT games that have MicroTel's in them when they fail. After that the only part that takes a crap is the video card.
 
One more thing to consider. Because F&F, Drift and Super Bikes all run inside of WindowsXP they are REALLY finicky when something goes bad. The RT games that run in Linux Big Buck, Terminator and a few others are no where near as much of a pain in the ass as the Windows games. Its really important that you get EVERYTHING working right on these WinXX based games. ANY problem will cause a BSOD which ends up in a reboot, lockup or shut down.

Thats why its not worth screwing with the MicroTel's. The Dell's are much more stable.
 
I just pulled the video card from one of these, and you aren't joking. Just about every cap on this thing has taken a shit, and whats worse is it looks like these have already been replaced before. Looks like Ill be hunting down some new ones.
 
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