props to you for trying to hook up a fellow collector and make a new friend. Negative rep for him for being a dick.
Ethics among collectors
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wildwest3163
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Its not that either one made a good score (actually both did), its that a "friend" would treat a friend like that. That is not a friend but a user.
I have on several occasions paid a friend more than they were asking for an item than they were selling (maybe not as much as I thought it was worth, but if they were asking a way too low price), and Ive bought a few items for a set price and made a bundle on them, then turned around and slipped a couple hundred back to the friend I bought it from. Who do you think they call when they find something good.
Same goes for contracting work. If a friend tells me he'll do this job for X dollars and does a good job, and I think it was worth more I add a decent bonus. I never did like working cheaply and dont expect anyone else to either
cadillacman
Well-known member
yeah bad karma there...
If i got a game for $300...
sold it later that week for $3000
id tell the guy and hed get a larger cut of the game.
Making a little money isnt an issue i think, it helps us fund th enext project and so on..
but a profit like that deserves an additional payment to the original seller, IMHO
Its not required, but should be done IF your buddy is a true friend and true collector.
me personally if i saw a game and knew it was worth $3000, if the guy was a fellow good guy friend and or collector id frickin tell him "dude its worth 3g... " Now if he didnt care and still wanted to sell it for $300 then hey lucky me ....know what i mean?
If i got a game for $300...
sold it later that week for $3000
id tell the guy and hed get a larger cut of the game.
Making a little money isnt an issue i think, it helps us fund th enext project and so on..
but a profit like that deserves an additional payment to the original seller, IMHO
Its not required, but should be done IF your buddy is a true friend and true collector.
me personally if i saw a game and knew it was worth $3000, if the guy was a fellow good guy friend and or collector id frickin tell him "dude its worth 3g... " Now if he didnt care and still wanted to sell it for $300 then hey lucky me ....know what i mean?
sucks for you - do your homework next time
that dude sounds like a major douchebag
- M1A
that dude sounds like a major douchebag
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WadeLanham
Well-known member
Lesson learned on your part. Total dick move on his part. Welcome to "collectors"...
Wade
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PrimeTarget
Member
Man that sucks, see you try and be a nice guy and you get fucked.
Seems like a few guys in this thread are giving some real tough love, but you have to remember that hindsight is always 20/20. Every one makes mistakes, we just try to learn from them for the future.
Seems like a few guys in this thread are giving some real tough love, but you have to remember that hindsight is always 20/20. Every one makes mistakes, we just try to learn from them for the future.
Everyone gets screwed when they are new to the hobby.
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VectorJunkie
Well-known member
As stated... That guy is not your friend. After that flip, he is the enemy as far as games/collecting goes. It would be one thing if someone got over on you for $350 to put it in their personal collection, but to just flip it? That's just crap...
Still looking for a Joust pin for myself....
Still looking for a Joust pin for myself....
Burt6666
Well-known member
Not good...however the OP said he wasn't a friend nor did the guy say he wanted it for his own collection,simply said he'd been looking for one for awhile.Sucks but consider it a lesson learned.If it bothers you...don't give him any more deals.After you've been paid it's his to do with as he pleases.Not something I'd do to a friend but he is not your friend....especially now.
yeah, definitely talk around to other collectors to get info on who not to deal with. there're more than a few big donut-punchers i've run across in this hobby. you could try talking to the guy and see if he could hook you up with a little $$ or maybe a game or something for what he did, but don't expect it to happen.
Just consider what you bought it for and the poor sap who could have sold it in the first place. (maybe that will make you feel like he was cheated by the other guy and you were just the middle man)
Nahh you got hosed to be certain. He knew. I have done the same thing to operators who have no clue what a game is worth. I would never do this to anyone who is a collector. I bought a EDOT for 100 bucks. Traded it for a very nice starwars.
To be certain I have no problem with pulling the wool over an operators eyes... but if it is the average Joe..... I honestly don't know where I would stand... if they are far enough away... I'd make a low offer too I think.
All of my collecting friends know better... and now you do... most of us learn this lesson a few times ... cars ... women... houses... The damn realitor got a check for 18K when we closed on our house 5 years ago... that is some crazy stuff. I probably haven't made 18K in progress on my mortgage yet... Hosed is really a relative term.
Let it go...perhaps you'll be able to hose him someday... You know what mama always says..Kill them with kindness... my mother also always says that when you stab someone in the back make sure they don't feel it for 6 months. Sneaky old lady.. Mama says some strange things.
Nahh you got hosed to be certain. He knew. I have done the same thing to operators who have no clue what a game is worth. I would never do this to anyone who is a collector. I bought a EDOT for 100 bucks. Traded it for a very nice starwars.
To be certain I have no problem with pulling the wool over an operators eyes... but if it is the average Joe..... I honestly don't know where I would stand... if they are far enough away... I'd make a low offer too I think.
All of my collecting friends know better... and now you do... most of us learn this lesson a few times ... cars ... women... houses... The damn realitor got a check for 18K when we closed on our house 5 years ago... that is some crazy stuff. I probably haven't made 18K in progress on my mortgage yet... Hosed is really a relative term.
Let it go...perhaps you'll be able to hose him someday... You know what mama always says..Kill them with kindness... my mother also always says that when you stab someone in the back make sure they don't feel it for 6 months. Sneaky old lady.. Mama says some strange things.
Oryk Zinyo
Well-known member
I agree completely with this. There are quite a few collectors local to me and most of them I have never had a problem with. However, there are one or two who will jump on any deal posted locally and try to turn around and flip it to the other collectors. I just keep a watch for these people and choose to not do business with them in the future.
This guy is not your friend and his ethics obviously conflict with yours...
BTW, I thought I wanted a Joust pin until I played it. Two games in and I was done. It is cool in theory but boring in application, you aren't really combatting your opponent as much as trying to ring up your score more quickly than he does...
I'm curious how much you bought the game for first. That seems to be the missing piece of this story.
At any rate, in my opinion there are two different kinds of people in the classic gaming world, those who buy to make a profit, and those who buy to own & enjoy the games. It's very tough to be both. I bought all of my games because I love playing/owning them. I'd never sell any of them.
If you bought these games, then sold one or more so quickly, it seems you're in it for the profit side and not the collecting. I'd guess the fellow who bought and sold the game in question is only doing the same thing.
My advice is to choose whether you're into this hobby for the collecting, or for the profit. If collecting, only buy the games you want to own & keep; if profit, only buy and sell games who's value and demand you're familiar with.
And Skate or Die!!!
At any rate, in my opinion there are two different kinds of people in the classic gaming world, those who buy to make a profit, and those who buy to own & enjoy the games. It's very tough to be both. I bought all of my games because I love playing/owning them. I'd never sell any of them.
If you bought these games, then sold one or more so quickly, it seems you're in it for the profit side and not the collecting. I'd guess the fellow who bought and sold the game in question is only doing the same thing.
My advice is to choose whether you're into this hobby for the collecting, or for the profit. If collecting, only buy the games you want to own & keep; if profit, only buy and sell games who's value and demand you're familiar with.
And Skate or Die!!!
Reading the post alot say you should have done your research...yes this is true but the buyer was suppose to be a fellow collector, not a fellow scammer. Yes he is a scammer because you have been scammed. Partly fault of your own but definately taken advantage of by a more seasoned collector. Sad thing is the buyer sold out your current and future friendship for profit. If this was me I would tell the whole accurate story to every local collector and "out" this scammer for what he is. You have every right to tell the truth and help the next guy.
shardian
New member
I can't believe that looking up the value of an unknown value pinball wasn't the first thing you did! Any time I even briefly consider buying a pin, I immediately look up its current estimated value from several sources. That was absolutely a bone head move on your part - but I assume you were just trying to be a buddy to the guy. Noble...stupid, but noble.
Now the other guy - he's a real piece of work. Personally, I would have taken one look at it and said "Dude! Do you know how much that is worth?!?". Then I would have jokingly offered you what you paid for it plus $50. A real friend would have been excited for YOU. The fact that he lowballed you, downplayed its value, AND said he wanted it to keep...wow. If he is a KLOV, BYOAC, or any other forum member, you are OBLIGATED to out him.
Now the other guy - he's a real piece of work. Personally, I would have taken one look at it and said "Dude! Do you know how much that is worth?!?". Then I would have jokingly offered you what you paid for it plus $50. A real friend would have been excited for YOU. The fact that he lowballed you, downplayed its value, AND said he wanted it to keep...wow. If he is a KLOV, BYOAC, or any other forum member, you are OBLIGATED to out him.
PrimeTarget
Member
Agreed.
You did not mention how the situation stands right now, but as some other people said its possible that if you give the guy a guilt trip and maybe just maybe he might feel bad and give you a cut. More than likely though the guy is stone cold and would even think of it. Find out this guys info and call him out!!!!!
shred
Active member
That is sad and he is not your freind. He lied twice, he said he wanted it for himself and obviously he didnt because he sold it. Not much you can do about it, you thought you were getting a good deal so be happy but stop being freinds with someone who would do this unless he splits the profit with you. Also people saying it is your fault well it is not entirely your fault because you should be able to trust freinds and family. Becarefull of buying from anyone who claims they think what this guy did was ok.
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shardian
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heh, my Bro-in-law routinely tries to rip the rest of the family off. Any time he tries to get us to go on a trip with him, get in on some purchase, etc - odds are he is getting it free and using you to pocket money. Gotta love people like that!
Its almost never a good idea to do business with friends or family. Too much of a chance of things going sour.
RedWolfJC
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Devil's advocate...
Maybe the guy buying it didn't know what it was worth either, but someone made him an offer he couldn't refuse...
Still, even in that case, I probably would have contacted the OP back and split some of the profit...
To the OP, just curious, how did you find out the buyer flipped the pin for 3k, do you know for sure this even happened?
Maybe the guy buying it didn't know what it was worth either, but someone made him an offer he couldn't refuse...
Still, even in that case, I probably would have contacted the OP back and split some of the profit...
To the OP, just curious, how did you find out the buyer flipped the pin for 3k, do you know for sure this even happened?
rcproam
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He could probably sell Ketchup popsicles on a 100 degree day to a nun with white gloves too!
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