Email addresses @hotmail.com and @live.com

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Many large ISPs have moved to an email 'whitelist' system. If a sender is not on their list of approved senders (by IP address at least), mail from them goes into a black hole. An industry report that was just released shows about 15% of legitimate corporate email is getting vaporized because of these whitelist systems, which by their nature, are incredibly more restrictive then black list systems.

A non-white-listed email message is not rejected, it isn't returned to sender, it doesn't show up in the recipient's email box, and it doesn't even show up in their spam box.

AOL recently moved to this system and we had to work with them to get on their whitelist.

Microsoft has done the same thing. Working to get on their whitelist is proving to be a more difficult challenge. It means signup and lost password emails are likely not getting through to users looking for them.

The klov/arcade-museum server sends it own email on an IP address that is newer than that of the main WebMagic mail server. This means that if you are a hotmail/live.com user not getting email from the server (ie: password reset), you *might* have better luck requesting a lost password at http://www.webmagic.com/accounts/ or at www.lymphoma.com/accounts/

If that still doesn't work, a user might try contacting us at the email address found here: http://www.webmagic.com/contact.php

We continue to work on the Microsoft problem, though for a variety of reasons a fix is unlikely to happen this week.

This problem might also exist for some comcast users though the results here are mixed so we are not sure if a problem here actually exists yet.
 
Microsoft has apparently solved the problem in their system that is affecting us. An email we received 25 minutes ago said, amongst other things,

"... [FONT=&quot]Fortunately, we have conducted an investigation into the emails originating from your IP space and we have implemented a fix for your deliverability problem. This fix may take 24 - 48 hours to replicate completely throughout our system. Rest assured that this will correct the sending issue you currently have..."

They also said that they had lost track of a previous trouble ticket which had greatly delayed their response to my previous communication.


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Obviously the fix only lasted a few weeks, and the last 2 weeks have been bad. Microsoft has now told us they have fixed the hotmail problem again. It seems the only reliable long term solution is for us to pay their affiliated email whitelist service. While not pleased we are thinking about it about it. While not particularly cheap, it might be cheaper than spending time providing support for every hotmail/live/msn user not able to get their signup validation or lost password email messages.
 
Microsoft fixed the problem in April, and it popped up again 2 days ago. People be warned... @msn @hotmail @live.com are dangerous addresses to use if you want to get updates from these forums.
 
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