EDOT in "Special When Lit" movie

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I couldn't find this posted on here, which surprised me, so sorry if this has been talked to death (ala Star Wars chair).

I just watched this movie last night (it's on Netflix, check it out), and enjoyed it. I did, however, notice something that made me wince:

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Yes, that is a kid propped up in an EDOT with his feet on the CP, sitting on the rear pad. WTF?
 
that is free on hulu, too. fun movie. you can meet quite a few of those characters at the yearly Chicago Pinball Expo.
 
The Documentary channel runs that occasionally. Its from 2009. I haven't seen it all the way through but its good.
 
So, has the EDOT sitter been discussed before? It says in the movie where it is, I just couldn't believe the kid was doing that, without anyone saying anything.
 
... I just couldn't believe the kid was doing that, without anyone saying anything.

Why are your surprised? It is a pinball movie and a lot of pinball collectors do not care about video games and what happens to them. There are video game guys that don't care about pinball.
 
I don't think many people at PAPA know that an EDOT is a rare game. The game is in decent shape, but everything there is out on the floor for general use. Also, think about the fact that most of the pinball machines are worth a lot more than an EDOT.
 
Why are your surprised? It is a pinball movie and a lot of pinball collectors do not care about video games and what happens to them. There are video game guys that don't care about pinball.

You know, I've been thinking about this lately. I tend to see more of the pinball people who look down on video games than vice versa. With the video game guys, they tend to say "I was never really into pinball" or something but the pinball guys always tend to bash video games like "why the fuck would you ever play those shitty cheap arcade games you moron?"

I wonder if this goes back to the early 80s when video games pretty much shut down pinball. Is it that pinballers never forgave the video gamers for video games fucking up pinball? Or is it that pinballers are snobs because the machines tend to cost 10 times more? I don't know. I own and play the hell out of both. It's just that when I mention that I have video games to the pinball crew they always get this look on their face like they want to diss me. I don't get that reaction when I mention pins to the video game crew.
 
You know, I've been thinking about this lately. I tend to see more of the pinball people who look down on video games than vice versa. With the video game guys, they tend to say "I was never really into pinball" or something but the pinball guys always tend to bash video games like "why the fuck would you ever play those shitty cheap arcade games you moron?"

I wonder if this goes back to the early 80s when video games pretty much shut down pinball. Is it that pinballers never forgave the video gamers for video games fucking up pinball? Or is it that pinballers are snobs because the machines tend to cost 10 times more? I don't know. I own and play the hell out of both. It's just that when I mention that I have video games to the pinball crew they always get this look on their face like they want to diss me. I don't get that reaction when I mention pins to the video game crew.
I catch it from both because of my MAME and Visual/Future Pinball adventures.
 
all online fodder for entertainment. I've never heard anyone at an arcade or expo in the recent era say pinball or video is bad when both are available. I hear everyone laughing and happy they still have the opportunity. :)

that curly haired guy in the documentary is quite a character in person. think he's my favorite pinball character, even over rodger sharpe....
 
From my experiences...

Video gamers who don't "do" pinball simply don't "do" pinball. They rarely have a disparaging thing to say about pinball other than the "big deal, a ball flapping back and forth" crap.

Pinheads who don't "do" videos are a much more vocal lot. Many seem to feel that if they don't express their hatred for video games and video game players whenever possible, their status as a "pinhead" will somehow be jeopardized.

Of course the vast majority of each side are normal people with no reason to give a hard time to the other side...

Me? I like both. I tend to be more video oriented but pins are fun. I find that having pins is a love/hate relationship with me. I love to play them but working on them sucks (for me)... the reason being my back gets JACKED UP working on pins. I have a bad back and the angles necessary to work on a pin just doesn't play nice with me.
 
Thinking about it, I know a few people that have just vids, but I don't know anyone with pins that doesn't have a couple of video games.

I was a vid guy that occasionally played pins on location. Once I had one at home (I bought Pinbot and Taxi because they were the two machines I loved when they were new), I knew I'd never want to limit myself to one or the other again. Changes the whole feel of the room, and people that don't like video games still gravitate to pinball machines.
 
I couldn't find this posted on here, which surprised me, so sorry if this has been talked to death (ala Star Wars chair).

I just watched this movie last night (it's on Netflix, check it out), and enjoyed it. I did, however, notice something that made me wince:

IMAG0106_zps8e8cea8a.jpg


Yes, that is a kid propped up in an EDOT with his feet on the CP, sitting on the rear pad. WTF?

There are 2 kids in the game, one is playing it, the other watching from above.
 
From my experiences... Pinheads who don't "do" videos are a much more vocal lot. Many seem to feel that if they don't express their hatred for video games and video game players whenever possible, their status as a "pinhead" will somehow be jeopardized.

I know several pinball guys that feel this way. I am in my mid 40's now so I grew up in the golden age of video games. Pinball took a big decline in the early 1980's. Companies like Williams, Gottlieb, Bally tried everything in the early 1980's to try to save pinball. Games like Black Knight (the first double level), Black Hole (Gottlieb's first double level), Haunted House (Gottlieb's 3-level game) were made to try to bring more people back to the pinball side but video games still took over. Diehard people guys felt that video games were killing pinball (and they were right). To this day I still know people who blame video games for killing pinball.
 
I know several pinball guys that feel this way. I am in my mid 40's now so I grew up in the golden age of video games. Pinball took a big decline in the early 1980's. Companies like Williams, Gottlieb, Bally tried everything in the early 1980's to try to save pinball. Games like Black Knight (the first double level), Black Hole (Gottlieb's first double level), Haunted House (Gottlieb's 3-level game) were made to try to bring more people back to the pinball side but video games still took over. Diehard people guys felt that video games were killing pinball (and they were right). To this day I still know people who blame video games for killing pinball.

They're misguided, because videogames were pretty much dead when pinball went through one of its greatest era's. Nearly all the games that are most valuable today were made after the second wave of video game popularity (fighters) was also dying out. It also coincides with the first era where home games were on par with arcade games. Public interest changed.

These guys may feel that video games shifted focus away from pinball in the early 80's, but the companies that were successful were making both. I also distinctly remember Space Shuttle and High Speed showing up during the height of video game popularity and getting huge amounts of interest/play.

I suppose there are guys that were there for earlier pin boom. Maybe they're just unrealistic old curmudgeons now. I know I'm well on my way! lol
 
eight ball deluxe and that fast pin game that shoots lots of small balls, ?rapid fire? were fun during the video game era. i was 10 in 78 and went to a local bowling alley and a tavern in the neighborhood that were the old school pinball places with EMs and things like evil knievel...that was a whole different vibe. brilliant fun, but totally different vibe. I remember seeing the KISS pin for the first time and couldn't believe how cool it was.

our local skating rink was the first to get all video games and they had no pins. all the early B/W stuff right up to the color vector stuff pre-arcade boom. that setting would never have been the correct vibe for the old EM pin vibe mentioned above.

it was an incongruous marketing conundrum, eh? that was a dynamic era of social change with the end of disco's and such.
 
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