While the ostrich CPO isn't bad, the other one looks like A$$. IF you are going to flip it, roll the price of an original CPO in and give them the other one to hang on the wall.
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Do NOS Willis overlays detract from value?
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bit_slicer
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I dunno. That Willis overlay looks like a bunch of deformed head shanks to me. If it were me I'd do the prep work, and then sell the overlay with the CP and give the buyer the option of installing it.
The only Willis overlay I find remotely palatable is the one for Centipede:
The only Willis overlay I find remotely palatable is the one for Centipede:
MilitiaMan
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The Moon Patrol Willis is pretty sweet as well ... I will post a photo of one later this evening, if anyone is interested.
Back to the original topic ... that Joust Willis CPO doesn't look half bad. I say go for it!
Steve
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Back to the original topic ... that Joust Willis CPO doesn't look half bad. I say go for it!
Steve
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Phetishboy
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I am interested. And to clarify, this isn't a game I am flipping, just a finished or unfinished fully populated Joust CP. I am keeping the cab for my Multi-Williams and using Arcadeshop's MW Metal CP. It would be for someone trying to piece together a Joust, or to replace a horribly hacked CP.
I do this for the memories myself.. and all of my memories of seeing a game with some wacky knock off CPO back then were not good. I always thought it looked like crap, wrong.. and it always seemed to be in the POS trailer park gameroom that you saw the willis stuff used so I kinda always associated the crappy artwork with crappy arcades in places I usually didn't want to be 
To each their own, but me nah. Especially when a decent repro of the original is readily available, why use that stuff? Like lipstick on a pig. I think i'd take a semi worn original over a willis knockoff.
To each their own, but me nah. Especially when a decent repro of the original is readily available, why use that stuff? Like lipstick on a pig. I think i'd take a semi worn original over a willis knockoff.
MilitiaMan
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Here are a few other Willis CPO's I was able to find in my photobucket account ... for your viewing pleasure!
Some sort of Pac cocktail
The blue and black one in this pic is Pole Position, I believe ...
Centipede and Millipede
In this photo, I spy an Asteroids and a Centipede ...
Still no Moon Patrol, though. I'll keep looking.
Some sort of Pac cocktail
The blue and black one in this pic is Pole Position, I believe ...
Centipede and Millipede
In this photo, I spy an Asteroids and a Centipede ...
Still no Moon Patrol, though. I'll keep looking.
Phet loves lipstick on his pigs.
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Phetishboy
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I do this for the memories myself.. and all of my memories of seeing a game with some wacky knock off CPO back then were not good. I always thought it looked like crap, wrong.. and it always seemed to be in the POS trailer park gameroom that you saw the willis stuff used so I kinda always associated the crappy artwork with crappy arcades in places I usually didn't want to be
To each their own, but me nah. Especially when a decent repro of the original is readily available, why use that stuff? Like lipstick on a pig. I think i'd take a semi worn original over a willis knockoff.
For my own game, yes I agree. But in this situation, what would be the net gain by buying a nice original CPO for more than half of what you can sell the whole fully populated and restored wooden CP for? Then having to install the new overlay, then having the Willis CPO that was made for that particular CP still laying around? If I had an original Joust CPO AND a Willis Joust CPO and a bare Joust CP laying here, the choice would be easy. As I only have the Willis CPO and the bare CP, well, therein lies the dilemma.
MilitiaMan
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Found some more ...
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Phetishboy
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Is the Pole Position one FS? I am still looking for another one of those.
MaximRecoil
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I think that quality screen printed reproductions which duplicate the original artwork—when available—render Willis stuff obsolete. After all, I'm sure Willis would have used the original artwork if they could have gotten away with it at the time.
It is kind of like how MAME (or other arcade hardware emulators) has rendered most vintage console ports of arcade games obsolete.
It is kind of like how MAME (or other arcade hardware emulators) has rendered most vintage console ports of arcade games obsolete.
MilitiaMan
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Damn picture limit ... here are a few more.
Phoenix
A few more of Asteroids
Willis or not?
Still can't find that DAMN Moon Patrol pic ...
Steve
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Phoenix
A few more of Asteroids
Willis or not?
Still can't find that DAMN Moon Patrol pic ...
Steve
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MilitiaMan
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Unfortunately not ... my decision (back when I was selling all of these items in February) was to keep a minimum of one of each.
I may change my mind about that in the future, but for now I guess I am whoreding them.
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bit_slicer
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They're in the Rotheblog link....
p1899m
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I say sell the populated cp seperate from the cpo. Sure the cpo may not sell for much but I imagine anyone who will pay a reasonable amount for the original panel will just strip off the willis overlay and replace it with an AS cpo. better the willis go to someone who will enjoy it. Or just hang it on your wall if it doesn't sell. Would kinda be sad to apply it just to have the next guy rip it off. Which I feel is a likely scenario. I doubt having the willis overlay applied will really increase the value of the cp.
MilitiaMan
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Thank you, sir ... now I don't have to search for it later tonight.
The second one (the grey one) is pretty decent looking by itself, though I do not think it would look excellent on the Moon Patrol cabinet.
Steve
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The second one (the grey one) is pretty decent looking by itself, though I do not think it would look excellent on the Moon Patrol cabinet.
Steve
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Phetishboy
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Good point. I wonder if the Willis would be a better base for an original CPO than the actual wood? I always thought decals on wooden CP's was a bad idea. Look at the Starwars marquee overlays, same problem. Wood as a base seems too porous for proper adhesion.
So you're just talking about a cp you plan to sell? why bother with an overlay at all? a willis or a jacked original, both worthless and gonna most likely be replaced by the buyer anyway.
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Phetishboy
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That's what I am getting at. Would it be better to sell it bare (for peanuts), or install the $5 overlay on it and sell it 'complete' for possibly more money? Mind you, most hardcore collectors would turn their noses up at the thought of a Willis or even repro overlay for that matter, but for the lazy, casual collector, buying a complete plug n play CP may seem more enticing, regardless if the overlay is NOS, repro or Willis. I guess I am not asking collectors "Which would you buy" but rather "What would YOU do in this particular situation."
p1899m
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Just my opinion but I would say the difference in value between an original cp with a messed up overlay and one with a new willis overlay would be about $5-10. Not worth the time, effort, or the overlay IMO.
