Did I Suicide? Help Stat

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So I just got in an order of batteries for my CPS2 games and decided to replace the old ones. First up Puzzle Fighter, installed the new battery and fired right up. Next, Marvel Super Heroes, gave it a test play, changed the battery and retested and all I get is a white screen. I am getting a solid 3.6 from the battery and solder points.

Any idea what happened? Is there time to fix this?
 
it takes 60-90 minutes after you do a cps2 battery replacement to confirm you did it right (tho i'm sure you could just check for voltage at the traces :D ).

make sure you didn't crush any of the pins between the A and B board.
 
Brood, I am getting a 3.6 at the battery and underneath at the solder points. I have also tried using different base boards, same thing.
 
Brood, I am getting a 3.6 at the battery and underneath at the solder points. I have also tried using different base boards, same thing.

don't use the solder points, go further down the trace, as the solder points are directly connected to the battery.
 
Not sure if this will help, but a suicided board seems to give random outputs according to these videos:

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucOILSuMg6A
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gugUBNgXX8w
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyBIudh5VrY

I also read about the waiting period that Broodwich mentioned above, although the article I read stated it was 30 minutes.
Admitedley though I am a complete newbie to all of this and just going by what those videos show.

Since I sent mine out to get replaced by a pro, hopefull I'll never see those screens or hear that static.

I hope your board is okay + Best wishes!
 
Man, this sucks. My main fear is that I did not do it right and that the Puzzle Fighter will soon fail.
 
There's not a ton of trace coming off of the battery

i could be wrong but i think you can test the battery connection to the traces from the two little holes to the left of the lower solder point, and to the right of the upper one.
 

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Each of the custom Capcom chips will have an electrolytic cap by it( ifc they are marked something like CCX or CXX) each of these caps should read 2+ volts for the chips to retain the encryption. If you had a bad cap or you shorted a cap while the battery was off, that
could also suicide the board.
 
Each of the custom Capcom chips will have an electrolytic cap by it( ifc they are marked something like CCX or CXX) each of these caps should read 2+ volts for the chips to retain the encryption. If you had a bad cap or you shorted a cap while the battery was off, that
could also suicide the board.

I was just about to suggest the exact same thing (ie bad cap) - this would mean that you'd have far less time to swap out the battery (or no time at all if the cap has completely failed).

Also worth checking that the B board is making good contact with the A board and that no pins are bent on the connectors.

Failing all that, I'm afraid it's probably Phoenix time!
 
Thanks guys, I regret to announce that Marvel Super Heroes died at 1:03 EST. It had a long good run and we enjoyed many hours of entertainment with it.

My last moments just before the battery swap were spent as Wolverine and I got to KO the hell out of Captain America, so I will always have that.

In all seriousness, thank you. I had no idea about the caps. That really sucks. I thought a nice quick less than 20 second battery swap would be nothing.

I am just glad Puzzle Fighter made it out ok. MSH is a dime a dozen game and probably not worth the cost to Phoenix.
 
Thanks guys, I regret to announce that Marvel Super Heroes died at 1:03 EST. It had a long good run and we enjoyed many hours of entertainment with it.

My last moments just before the battery swap were spent as Wolverine and I got to KO the hell out of Captain America, so I will always have that.

In all seriousness, thank you. I had no idea about the caps. That really sucks. I thought a nice quick less than 20 second battery swap would be nothing.

I am just glad Puzzle Fighter made it out ok. MSH is a dime a dozen game and probably not worth the cost to Phoenix.

Bah, I'd phoenix it anyway just so I'm sure I know how it's done and have the confidence to try it on rarer carts.
 
I have been told, and it has been my experience, that a white screen is not a suicide.

My phoenixed Street Fighter Alpha 2 board came up white a coupe of days ago. I used some alcohol on a toothbrush and applied it to the connectors where the a and b boards meet, scrubbing really good and making sure it got into all 400 or so little holes. The board came up after that.

I have also heard that a white screen is indicative of a Q-Sound failure. Make sure the roms at location 1 and 2 are reseated.

Good luck. I doubt the board has suicided.

Brian.
 
Fair enough, Solder. I am far from being an athority on CPS2 suicide. The only time I have seen a white screen, though, it wasn't from suicide.

I currently have two CPS2 B boards that come up white on all four of my A boards even with raz's test EEPROM. They have been sitting without batteries for over a year.

I would love to be able to figure out what is wrong with them, but I suspect that it is dirty contacts like the other one. I got them both in a lot that was shipped to me after a long delay from California in a package that was wet on the inside. Two other CPS2 boards in the box had to be scrapped due to severe rust, these two worked when I tested everthing (after phoenixing) but stopped a few weeks later. I suspect that the seller let the box get rained on before he shipped it to me, took it all out and put in in a new box and then sent it. The box I got them in was in perfect shape.

Brian
 
I currently have two CPS2 B boards that come up white on all four of my A boards even with raz's test EEPROM. They have been sitting without batteries for over a year.

I would love to be able to figure out what is wrong with them, but I suspect that it is dirty contacts like the other one. I got them both in a lot that was shipped to me after a long delay from California in a package that was wet on the inside. Two other CPS2 boards in the box had to be scrapped due to severe rust, these two worked when I tested everthing (after phoenixing) but stopped a few weeks later. I suspect that the seller let the box get rained on before he shipped it to me, took it all out and put in in a new box and then sent it. The box I got them in was in perfect shape.

Brian

Thanks for the input. The game was working moments before the battery change. All of the connections were cleaned and I have tested it on numerous B boards. I even attached it without the plastic case to make sure it was seated properly.

It is DEAD. It died during that 15-20 seconds of time when I was installing the new battery. It's a $45-50 game so I don't think it's worth phoenixing.

This was definitely a learning experience. I didn't even think about checking the caps prior to replacement. Never again (shakes fist angrily at Capcom gods)
 
Thanks for the input. The game was working moments before the battery change. All of the connections were cleaned and I have tested it on numerous B boards. I even attached it without the plastic case to make sure it was seated properly.

It is DEAD. It died during that 15-20 seconds of time when I was installing the new battery. It's a $45-50 game so I don't think it's worth phoenixing.

In that case I'd sell it on Ebay if I were you - whatever you do, please don't junk it. :)

Note: I have no interest in buying it, mainly because i'm in the UK.
 
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