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smitymike11
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The funny thing is he refuses to give full details. Claims nobody will want to read it all even though everyone has asked for them. After reading all of this it sounds like he will not be happy unless he get back the amount of money he wants. If he was offered part of a refund he would not like that because he want the amount he wants. Another thing I noticed is he put how much he is out but the numbers a different. He claims he was out $33 the one time he sent the boards in but it only cost $17 to have them sent back. It sounds like the only way this guy will be happy is if he gets a full refund.
kb0jjn
New member
No 'cause even then he would say something like it took too long to get a refund and the working board doesn't work in my Mucked up cab.
kb0jjn
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darinjacobs
Well-known member
Dick has always been a stand up guy in my book. He always fixes every board I send him in a timely manner for what I think are cheap prices. I've also managed to buy some boards on eBay he was selling and all turned out great.
It very well could be this person is telling the truth about the boards not working. But there are so many variables involved. They're probably working on Dicks end but not in this guys cabinet. I had this come up on my Joust table pinball. Boards would work for El Dorado but not in my game. Crazy as it sounds I bought another Joust pin and swapped the boards into that game and they worked! I took the boards out of the other Joust into the non-working one and everything was good. These old boards can be challenging and head scratches from time to time.
This guy probably went about this the wrong way too and isn't winning anyone over with his arguments (or lack of a clear argument). I hope it gets resolved because he is acting like JrPac and few if anyone will deal with him or take what he says seriously.
Good luck!
It very well could be this person is telling the truth about the boards not working. But there are so many variables involved. They're probably working on Dicks end but not in this guys cabinet. I had this come up on my Joust table pinball. Boards would work for El Dorado but not in my game. Crazy as it sounds I bought another Joust pin and swapped the boards into that game and they worked! I took the boards out of the other Joust into the non-working one and everything was good. These old boards can be challenging and head scratches from time to time.
This guy probably went about this the wrong way too and isn't winning anyone over with his arguments (or lack of a clear argument). I hope it gets resolved because he is acting like JrPac and few if anyone will deal with him or take what he says seriously.
Good luck!
Note to self: do not deal with bifandjet.
I don't doubt that the OP had problems with his boards, but he's not mentioning things like:
How many times were the boards sent back?
Timeline of events?
What problems the boards had and how soon?
What grammar school encourages run-on sentences?
Where the OP learned the ways of thread trolling?
If OP's said mother is fat and if so, how fat?
How many more pictures does the OP think will get posted in this thread?
How many times were the boards sent back?
Timeline of events?
What problems the boards had and how soon?
What grammar school encourages run-on sentences?
Where the OP learned the ways of thread trolling?
If OP's said mother is fat and if so, how fat?
How many more pictures does the OP think will get posted in this thread?
Saving this. It will come in handy one of these days.
Muahahahahahaha!
Casey120
Member
Pilfered... THANK YOU!
Damn, I have never had a board repaired by him but.... I wish I was Dick.
jrok
Well-known member
Ghostnuke
Well-known member
ahahaha .
Wow -- you've pretty much burned every bridge you have here, haven't you?
With these childish displays of yours I'd wager that you're now on most people's "do not sell to/buy from" list.
And good luck getting technical help from folks here -- you've pretty well self-destructed here and based on your replies I'm sure you have no idea why.
Oh well.
Dantebean
New member
My son is shocked at your grammar.
LUCKYMAN
New member
Owning a pole position is your first mistake...
Caution - long comment by a fellow repair person:
I can directly relate to the issue of repairing a board for someone and sending it out to have it come back. And yes sometimes multiple times. That is the nature of the beast as you do not know the history of the board and if they were stressed by bad or reverse power or incorrect voltage being applied which marginally damaged some ICs and it does not show up right away. The toughest ones are the correlation ones where one board works and others do not. Since we can't directly test the cabinet the board goes in, there could be marginal power or connection issues or a weak ground in the cabinet where one board would work and the others not. Other times, and I'm not saying this is the case here, the cabinet has other issues and the repaired board gets the blame.
It's understandable to be frustrated by this but to indict a person like Dick with his long standing excellent reputation is not the way to go. I'm sure Dick is probably just as frustrated - you repair and test the board and it works fine only to have it come back multiple times. In this case a satisfactory resolution was not achievable.
I try my best and I'm sure Dick does as well to delight every customer but there are corner cases that no matter what you do they will never be satisfied. In these cases they go on the "I'll never repair anything for that guy again" list. And I'm sure this OP did a great job to get on Dick's (and now probably other people's) list as well. Not a good list to be on and especially for pole position PCBs - I would not touch that boardset (you knew this was coming) - with a ten foot pole.
A lot of collectors understand this repair process for boards that are often over 30 years old and of dubious origin and handling and have commented here about the patience sometimes required to get them "flying right". Luckily there are folks out there like Dick who will take on the challenge of repairing these boards and in most cases being under-compensated for the actual amount of time and effort put in to repair them. It is a "labor of love" and the number of folks who are willing to do this is dwindling. The folks who are left are all backed up with work and the wait times can be extensive as for many this is a spare time effort and it is unreasonable to expect them to spend all of it repairing boards.
Bill
I can directly relate to the issue of repairing a board for someone and sending it out to have it come back. And yes sometimes multiple times. That is the nature of the beast as you do not know the history of the board and if they were stressed by bad or reverse power or incorrect voltage being applied which marginally damaged some ICs and it does not show up right away. The toughest ones are the correlation ones where one board works and others do not. Since we can't directly test the cabinet the board goes in, there could be marginal power or connection issues or a weak ground in the cabinet where one board would work and the others not. Other times, and I'm not saying this is the case here, the cabinet has other issues and the repaired board gets the blame.
It's understandable to be frustrated by this but to indict a person like Dick with his long standing excellent reputation is not the way to go. I'm sure Dick is probably just as frustrated - you repair and test the board and it works fine only to have it come back multiple times. In this case a satisfactory resolution was not achievable.
I try my best and I'm sure Dick does as well to delight every customer but there are corner cases that no matter what you do they will never be satisfied. In these cases they go on the "I'll never repair anything for that guy again" list. And I'm sure this OP did a great job to get on Dick's (and now probably other people's) list as well. Not a good list to be on and especially for pole position PCBs - I would not touch that boardset (you knew this was coming
) - with a ten foot pole. A lot of collectors understand this repair process for boards that are often over 30 years old and of dubious origin and handling and have commented here about the patience sometimes required to get them "flying right". Luckily there are folks out there like Dick who will take on the challenge of repairing these boards and in most cases being under-compensated for the actual amount of time and effort put in to repair them. It is a "labor of love" and the number of folks who are willing to do this is dwindling. The folks who are left are all backed up with work and the wait times can be extensive as for many this is a spare time effort and it is unreasonable to expect them to spend all of it repairing boards.
Bill
kb0jjn
New member
send me your boards and I will fix them for you.
I will fix his boards for him.....
Mrbill08,
He might of had a real gripe but he just went all about it the wrong way.
This is the one that if you hanged with a new rope would complain that it was too new and hurts his neck.
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