Dedicated Street Fighter 2 World Warrior

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Was there a dedicated version or was it just a kit? I know some of the other versions had dedicated cabs, but I can't find much info on this.
 
Unlike some other SF2 versions, this one had all the necessary art pieces to make a dedicated cabinet, but the closest I've found was just the typical Dynamo cut-corner cab.

Surely there was something in Japan?
 
SF2 launched when Capcom was ordering cabs through Dynamo. (later on to use other builders like 3KOAM and Hanaho also)

The answer is yes and no. If you accept yes then the dedicated was a factory installed kit that came in a Dynamo HS1 with a specifically punched corner cut CP. The punch buttons happen to be inline with the joystick holes. Later on they corrected this where the joystick was centered between the punch and kick buttons.

These HS1s were really no different than other games that kits were applied to at the time. Some might say that a factory installed kit isn't really dedicated.

In particular I have and have seen Dynamo cabs that list the serial of the cab type as well as the game that shipped in it. I have one for SF2 in a HS2 and also SFIII:NG in a HS5.

your original question is covered in this thread.
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=149968&highlight=Street+Fighter+dedicated

Recent good threads on SF2 also.

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=169445
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=175858
 
SF2 launched when Capcom was ordering cabs through Dynamo. (later on to use other builders like 3KOAM and Hanaho also)

The answer is yes and no. If you accept yes then the dedicated was a factory installed kit that came in a Dynamo HS1 with a specifically punched corner cut CP. The punch buttons happen to be inline with the joystick holes. Later on they corrected this where the joystick was centered between the punch and kick buttons.

These HS1s were really no different than other games that kits were applied to at the time. Some might say that a factory installed kit isn't really dedicated.

In particular I have and have seen Dynamo cabs that list the serial of the cab type as well as the game that shipped in it. I have one for SF2 in a HS2 and also SFIII:NG in a HS5.

your original question is covered in this thread.
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=149968&highlight=Street+Fighter+dedicated

Recent good threads on SF2 also.

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=169445
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=175858

That's interesting. I knew there were SFII:CEs that were factory installed in HS-5 cabinets, complete with a label on back with the name of the game, but I didn't know about SFII:WWs factory installed in HS-1 cabinets. Did those also have a label on back with the name of the game? I'd love to see a picture of something like that.

I don't get the argument that these aren't dedicated. If a game came complete from the factory, it is dedicated. Do the people that argue that these aren't dedicated also argue that Ikari Warriors is not dedicated? Those were the same deal; factory installed in a Dynamo HS-1.
 
That's interesting. I knew there were SFII:CEs that were factory installed in HS-5 cabinets, complete with a label on back with the name of the game, but I didn't know about SFII:WWs factory installed in HS-1 cabinets. Did those also have a label on back with the name of the game? I'd love to see a picture of something like that.

I don't get the argument that these aren't dedicated. If a game came complete from the factory, it is dedicated. Do the people that argue that these aren't dedicated also argue that Ikari Warriors is not dedicated? Those were the same deal; factory installed in a Dynamo HS-1.

I see both sides of the arguement but it doesn't matter. Many people feel and wish that Capcom did something more special than just make the dedicateds out of generic cabs. I wish they even did something with a special marque or topper for WW. The side art was not even full art. Just a square Horrible image. I have lots of old reference art from books and I always

EDIT: I always wanted to make some full custom side art for it... but meh... I usually stack them really close side by side.

Wait I don't actually recall that the Dynamo SF2's rear badge say anything about SF2 actually. I just know from other symptoms that it's an original. Esseyo's HS1 had no other CPO's under the original. The board also had no other screws to mount the PCB other than the WW that was in there. Inside it was completely unmolested and having all signs pointing to the fact that it was dedicated. My HS2 says Dowel on the back of it but it's a dedicated w/ zero signs of being a conversion.

I also heard many stories about WW when it released that Capcom did not sell the kit initially so distributers where breaking up the cabs to remove the kit to sell them off, bringing more money parted.
 
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This SFII had a sticker serial plate on the back from Capcom...

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I see both sides of the arguement but it doesn't matter. Many people feel and wish that Capcom did something more special than just make the dedicateds out of generic cabs. I wish they even did something with a special marque or topper for WW. The side art was not even full art. Just a square Horrible image. I have lots of old reference art from books and I always

That's because it was a product of the JAMMA era; operators wanted standardization / ease of convertibility. However, that doesn't have anything to do with whether the machine was dedicated or not. It is a different stylistic approach to dedicated machines than was typical during the classic era, but dedicated nonetheless (dedicated means complete machine from the factory, full stop).

Also, there were classics that didn't have full sideart (Nintendo machines come to mind), though the outer perimeter was usually more than just rectangular.

Wait I don't actually recall that the Dynamo SF2's rear badge say anything about SF2 actually. I just know from other symptoms that it's an original. Esseyo's HS1 had no other CPO's under the original. The board also had no other screws to mount the PCB other than the WW that was in there. Inside it was completely unmolested and having all signs pointing to the fact that it was dedicated. My HS2 says Dowel on the back of it but it's a dedicated w/ zero signs of being a conversion.

Hmm ... well that could just mean that an operator or distributor bought a new empty Dynamo cabinet and installed an SFII kit in it. Dynamo definitely sold new empty cabinets to anyone who wanted one; that was the main thrust of their business in fact.

I would think that if there were any SFII:WWs that were factory installed in HS-1, they would be labeled as such, just like this "Street Fighter 3" (AKA: SFII:CE) in a Dynamo HS-5:

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I'd love to see something (like a label) that proves there were dedicated SFII:WWs in HS-1 cabinets, because I have a SFII:WW in a Dynamo HS-1. I know it isn't dedicated because I'm the one that installed it in there, but it would be nice to know that such a configuration did actually exist in dedicated form. I already know that such a configuration was very popular; in fact, the SFII:WW kits were primarily designed for Dynamo HS cabinets (the back of the bezel has cutting guidelines labeled for HS-1 and HS-5).

This SFII had a sticker serial plate on the back from Capcom...

You didn't take a picture of it? Did it specifically mention Street Fighter II?
 
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This SFII had a sticker serial plate on the back from Capcom...

And that looks to me to be a HS5 25" monitor.

To me it doesn't really matter if they were dedicated or the arguement actually.
 
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And that looks to me to be a HS5 25" monitor.

That's exactly what it is. I hope FrizzleFried took a picture of the label. It would be nice for helping to piece together the puzzle.

I played a lot of SFII:WW when it first came out. The cabinets I saw them in the most were HS-5s and HS-1s (or HS-2s, which look the same as HS-1s from the outside).
 
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Well guys, I can't be certain now. I just went out to the gameroom and looked on the back of the cab. There is a DYNAMO tag back there... and a blank spot where a tag was at one time...

I thought there was a Capcom tag back there...

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You're going to kill your brain trying to nail this down.

I'm in the camp that sees dedicated as the cabinet the pub/dev/warehouse shipped to their customers. Otherwise we are on a slippery slope towards calling some Pac-Mans, Ms. Pac-Mans and Galagas non-dedicated because the production line had to repaint and swap cabs that did not change in physical design.

With CPS-1 SFII you have to throw your hands up and bend the rules a bit. If it is a HS-1 and you have a clean CP with no extra drills outside of SFII layout, you're halfway there. Look at other Capcom titles around the same era and they were pretty much HS-1's as well. WW wasn't an extraordinary title at the time for Capcom. It hadn't blown up yet to warrant special cabinets out of their norm (such as the huge CE cluster fuck of dedicateds and HF).

It's the curse of the JAMMA era. Dedicated cabinet designs with wild art packages was something the industry was pushing away from.

SF1 does have a specific dedicated btw. It's actually a kind of cool looking cabinet and the 6-button version is kind of nice for Capcom fighters.
 
There is this SF1 cab on CL right now(not mine but I think it belongs to someone here). If someone needs a SF1 pcb. I have a tested working one..

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tag/2342985460.html




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yeah i've been watching that and hoping that it'll sit a long time to drop price. Too bad part of the side art is going. There is zero reason to ever turn that back to an Original SF board. It would be fine upgraded to HF.
 
I'm in the camp that sees dedicated as the cabinet the pub/dev/warehouse shipped to their customers. Otherwise we are on a slippery slope towards calling some Pac-Mans, Ms. Pac-Mans and Galagas non-dedicated because the production line had to repaint and swap cabs that did not change in physical design.

I think that some people just don't like the idea of the word "dedicated" being used for anything other than machines from the classic era. "Dedicated" is simply a term that denotes a complete machine from the factory, as opposed to a conversion. If you try to arbitrarily expand on that definition, you run into problems like you mentioned. Some of the most famous classics suddenly can be said to be not dedicated:

Donkey Kong? That's just a Donkey Kong kit factory-installed in a Radar Scope cabinet.
Asteroids? That's just an Asteroids kit factory-installed in a Lunar Lander cabinet.
Pac-Man? That's just a Pac-Man kit factory-installed in a Galaxian cabinet.
 
There most certainly WAS a dedicated original Street Fighter machine, and it was a MONSTER! Most of them had Pneumatic pads that you had to pound with your fist. One for punch and another for kick. The harder you pounded the pad would determine whether it was a "light", "medium" or "hard" attack. Most of these were converted to the now traditional 6-button scheme through a kit that Capcom sold to the operators. "Gamerterry" on here performed this conversion on an original Street Fighter that was on location in the "Time Out" arcade that he was managing at the time, back when the game was new...
 
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