Daytona USA force feed issues

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Ok so I've have a problem with one of my sides for awhile now. Originally when I would boot the cabinet the force feed motor would not engage and would not work during the gameplay. I opened up my cabinet and looked at the steering board and saw that it read out Er which I assume means Error.

I switched boards between cabinets. Now when it boots it tries to calibrate but doesn't seem to move very far if at all. I can hear that the motor does sound engaged. During gameplay however the motor never tries to engage. The LED readout does work though.

So I know that I at least need another LED board but I'd love some ideas as to what else might be wrong with it. Also can anyone link me to where I can buy the security bit to get behind the steering wheel for cheap? I haven't yet been able to look there and wonder if maybe a belt had slipped off but that still wouldn't explain whe I didn't hear the motor during gameplay. Thanks guys!
 
Most common cause of that fail is the clutch, it is a particle clutch, and should connect mechanical force between motor and steering when pcb applies voltage to it, this varies from 0 to 24 volt, it transmit max force with 24 volt. Altough you should also check the pot, but if you see readout in led I suppose is working. Try swapping clutch with the other...
 
Plus, check the belt, and the motor won`t work in game play if error is detected or led pcb doesn`t initialize properly, that`s why you don`t hear the motor engaged during game
 
Before the display on the drive board goes to 'Er' what is the number it's reading out? you need to adjust the steering pot until the LED display reads '80' (or close to 80 as possible) if it isn't centered, the feedback will not work and disable itself.

There are 2 pots on the wheel, one for the main boards and the other is for the drive board, so make sure you're adjusting the right one -- the other pot's output can be seen in the input test, and it should be set to read '80h'

Also check to see that the setscrews in the pulleys are tight and that the belts are in good shape. The clutches do fail, but every one I've had that went bad provides too much tension or was 'scratchy' and inconsistent in applying force.

If the drive board can't read enough range from the pot for whatever reason when it's self-calibrating it will just disable itself. To get past this you can manually help the wheel through it's range at power-up so it can calibrate in a couple seconds rather than waiting for it to try to do it by itself.. It's an easy way to get the feedback to enable if there is a mechanical issue, so long as the pot is in working order.

The drive boards can develop problems as well, usually stemming from drink spills. If it reads nothing but 'Er' (or nothing at all) right from power up the board has problems.
 
Yeah, the board is definitely broke. It starts up with ER right away and just swapping the board gives me something that attempts to calibrate on boot up but does not attempt to work during gameplay. I should also iterate that the second board never comes up with Er even after calibration. It just sits on 80-81 and correctly reads out when you move the wheel left and right.

Which piece is the clutch and where can I find it? A picture would also be awesome as well. Thanks for your help guys.
 
I'd like to provide some info on this issue,
but I'm afraid I'll probably end-up asking questions myself.

Firstly , like others have said, make sure your pots (both of them per steering)
are set as close to possible to 80H when the wheel is centered.

One pot is displayed on the LED on the driver board,
the other is viewed in the game adjustments on the screen
(..select "Switch INPUT" [or something like that] and look at the value
for "HANDLE" [ yes, that what Sega calls the steering wheel ]

Both should be as close to 80H as possible (when centered ).

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I have on seat that has working feedback, and one side that doesn't.

I know the problem must be somewhere on the boardset
because if I swap the entire CP, the problem stays on the same seat
(...so I know both steering assemblies work on one seat,
and neither work on the other seat ).

My pots are perfectly set to 80H, and steering work fine on both seats
(...only the feedback is defective on one seat )

So I know the problem has to bet somewhere "underneath" (ie. boardset )

If any has any ideas, let me know.

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Also, on the seat that does have the working feedback,
it seem to always pull to the left.
ie,. in a straight-away, if I don't "force" the wheel to stay centered,
it will always veer to the left.

Is this normal ?

The game plays fine otherwise, but I would have thought
that the feedback should only kick-in when you hit something...

I also noticed that the feedback engages as soon as you hit 40mph
(ie. under 40mph, the feedback does not kick in )

I assume this is normal ?

Thanks,
Steph
 
So you have 2 problems, one pcb is bad, and your clutch doesn´t work. If you help initialization with your hand, and pcb shows 80-81 at the center wothout errors, this is not enough for the force feedback to work, this means that the clutch hasen´t power to do it by itself, and when you force to initialize by hand, in a game you won´t have the feed, but the motor will start. I am posting the pic of the clutch, advise if it is not show, I can send it by email.
 

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