Console War Put On Hold

Here's another thing you never hear, "Let's play each other online sometime. Add me to your Mii list."

Ba boom pssssht!

Yeah no really important to me. I'm more into one player games and Mario and Zelda type games. I'm not really into the halo type games.

I will admit that Nintendo has dropped the ball for their online stuff for people who like that sort it thing.
 
Nintendo has proved with the Wii that it is more about the gameplay experience than technology or online play. They feel that multiplayer loses something if you are not physically in the same room with the other players. For the first two and a half years, they could not produce them fast enough to keep up with the demand, despite the fact that the system does not support HD video and has limited online games (there are SOME, and you CAN play online with friends by sharing with them your friend code) and is technically inferior to the other systems...
 
Nintendo has proved with the Wii that it is more about the gameplay experience than technology or online play.

Actually, they did put a major chunk of technology before gameplay with the Wii. The motion control was definitely not refined when they shoved it out and banked on it to gimmick themselves apart from the other two machines (it worked, they sold units and the competition suddenly felt they needed motion control R&D teams). You don't need the latest graphics/sound tech to create great gameplay, but you definitely do need reliable and versatile input design. I very strongly believe the Wii's motion control design is neither.

I dig Nintendo and if we were discussing, say, the Gamecube, any gameboy system, SNES or NES era I'd follow you. I just think people really...really throw on blinders with their rose colored glasses when discussing Nintendo and the Wii (and the N64 to a degree).

I'm sorry. I ranted. Now I am gonna try to be helpful to the original topic. :p

If you can only afford one machine this generation:

-PS3 has bluray, but if you run a media server prepare for it to cock block some content. Have the choice between wired or wireless lan connectivity. Sleakest UI out of the three IMO.

-360 doesn't have bluray (they banked on HD DVD), acts as a hub for my media server with no issues and has the larger online community. Older models don't do wireless (dunno if they built it into the new models...wireless isn't the optimal way to play games anyways). There is also, of course, the failure rate. My first gen pooped out after a year. My current machine has been going strong for about 3-4 years now.

-Library wise, outside of a few exclusives, the third parties automatically dev for both PS3 and 360 for major titles. This includes downloadable content (arcade titles, demos and add-ons)

-If playing with others does matter to you, ask your gamer friends which one they play on for online. In my neck of the woods almost everyone has a 360 XBLA account, so that's what I wind up playing online the most. It might be different for your group though.

-Wii...no DVD support. Not nearly as much third party support as the other two, which leaves Nintendo dev'd titles open to being the strongest. The pack in games (Wii Sports), however, are highly addictive. Some people have gone so far as to not buy any other games for it just because of the pack in. You can also dig into the Gamecube library since it is backwards compatible. Online is really poorly implemented, just in UI navigation flaming hoops alone. They do have a backstock of classic console titles to download, but lack a lot of the new downloadable games the other two systems have.

-All three do Netflix.

-All three have motion control tech. I can't compare and contrast the 360 or PS3's version. I can only tell you that I hear a lot more about the cool stuff the Kinect is doing over the other two. Take that with a grain of salt.

-Don't underestimate trying all three out in the store if you can't make a decision.

-Most important if gaming is the #1 thing you're buying this thing for: look at the library. All said and done, none of these machines are much use to you if they are not playing games YOU want to play.

The ultimate set up is to, of course, buy all three since their strengths/weaknesses do fill in gaps. In my house the 360 is the primary new game machine, PS3 is the BluRay and PS3 exclusive game machine and Wii is the Wii Bowling/Gamecube/Nintendo exclusive game/Netflix machine.

PLONK! There's my 2 cents. :)
 
I have had the Wii and the 360.

While yes the 360 had a high failure rate when they first came out. Blame it on the lame ass design...But these later models are great and haven't had a problem at all. My son plays all the time.

And enough of my friends have PS3's and have also had plenty go bad. So it's really a toss up.

The online experience seems more refined with the 360. IMO.

But like others have said. The games usually come out equally on Sony's and MS platform. So you won't be hurt either way.

BTW Kinect kicks ass. I love it, no controls to be thrown into the screen by accident...and depending on the game it's actually pretty responsive for that application.

Sony does have a blu ray player....but I do streaming and rips so I have a HTPC to do that work.



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I'm on my 1st 360 still, it's almost 4 years old.

I know the BGA chips used on them are problematic, but I think the main reason for them being so problematic like this is most people putting them in horribly ventilated areas.
Like crammed in entertainment centers or right up against a nice hot TV where it just sucks more hot air in from the rear vents(Stick your hand behind a large LCD TV with a backlight...shits hot after a bit). 90% of peoples pictures I've seen of their "Setups", their 360 is in either one of these places.

I'd peg 8-9/10 RROD's more on User Error like the above, than just simple failure.
 
Nintendo has always made well designed machines, you can spend money to build chips that are faster and more powerful... and you can also spend money to build chips that are smaller and cooler. Nintendo was the only company with the integrity to do the latter. Those PS3 and 360 systems are like fucking microwaves, put your hand behind the fan on a Wii and COLD AIR is blowing out of that motherfucker.
 
Nintendo has always made well designed machines, you can spend money to build chips that are faster and more powerful... and you can also spend money to build chips that are smaller and cooler. Nintendo was the only company with the integrity to do the latter. Those PS3 and 360 systems are like fucking microwaves, put your hand behind the fan on a Wii and COLD AIR is blowing out of that motherfucker.

From games to guns to cars, low performance things make less heat. The Wii has no hard drive and bog slow Gamecube era guts.

I have an early Wii and read about problems with them when the Connect/24 (whatever they call the wireless being active all the time for the news and survey updates) was enabled. Think it had something to do with overheating the video on them and scrambling the output. I shut the always-on connection off before ever having an issue. Think it gives you a red light in Off mode and an amber in the 24 mode.

We have all 3 current gen consoles. The XBox 360 gets the most use. The PS3 is basically a BluRay player an the Wii is a dust collector.

I was skeptical about the Kinect and actually think I wanted to hate it, but its really well done. They have to be careful the Kinect doesn't get into the same shovel-ware rut as the Wii though. I've already noticed a lot of repetition in themes and mechanics of Kinect games.

I'm not really a big console game player (like the old arcade games and play new games on PC), but find myself playing lots of Pinball FX2 on the 360. The online setup is an order of magnitude better than Sony's, but I've never used Sony's newer paid setup.
 
Since people were talking about console failures.... I replaced my 1st (Launch) Xbox360 with one of the 250Gb models that came with a Kinect back in November. The DVD tray was having trouble opening/closing so I decided to upgrade. So while I am on my second 360, I have not had a RRoD. I did get a YLoD on my 60Gb PS3.
 
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