Classic Arcade Crazy Tilt Challenge

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This is MAME build for Android phones/tables. If you have Android device with TV-out port you could use it as a replacement for multi-game boards like 60-in-1. You will get simplicity and reliably of 60in1, more games, much better sound and global scoreboard built-in, only I have not tried it myself yet so not sure how it all looks on CRT, but as far as input goes any standard USB adapters should work. One more advantage would be that you could take this "PCB" out of the cabinet any time and use it normally as tablet/phone.


Pre-release build of "Classic Arcade Crazy Tilt Challenge" for Android devices is ready for testing. Before it gets published on Android Market I'm looking for people to play some games and report back their critical opinion and eventual bugs. Only about 100 games are supported at this time (classics) since each game requires individual attention to fully utilize all the features of this build. Only 7-8 games (mentioned below) will be available in this test-build since this will be the first time for the server to manage multiple accounts and games in progress, if it all goes well more games will be added. And the features are....



--- CRAZY SCOREBOARD (tm) ---

On-line world wide scoreboard, for all. For the first time in the history of MAME one of the most important characteristics of arcade games will come alive (online) and you will be able to compete for the top scores with everyone else just like we used to in the arcades. Crazy Scoreboard reads, writes and merges *.hi files with server database, which means all the scores are shown in-game, if the game has scorebaord, but it also maintains extended scoreboards you can access via menu, so for the games that only store one high-score like Pac-Man, they now have full (15 places) scoreboard all together with initials.

There are tokens, there is ranking. There are daily scoreboards with "Today's Far Out Players" list and there is "Hall of Fame" scoreboard for each game. If this app becomes popular there could also be various tournaments, special challenges, things to unlock, things to achieve, things to collect and brag about.

One game costs $1 token. When the game gets played all tokens from all the players stay in these on-line virtual machines until they reset, which happens every 12 or 24 hours. Whoever has the highest score after reset wins all the tokens and also gets entry to the Hall of Fame scoreboard. The number of tokens you have is related to your global ranking. You start with $57 tokens, you can not run out of tokens and you will always have at least $1 (attached to string), but if you have only $1 token that also means you are at the bottom of the global ranking list.

Whoever breaks top score on a daily scoreboard can write some message that will be shown together with the current standings. This feature can be used to taunt the other players down below on the list, write poems, jokes, or whatever. When the machine resets it clears up daily high score table, pays the winner all the tokes that got in the machine by that time from all the players that played it, and begins a new 12 hours round with a new starting $10 tokens for win. Hall of Fame scoreboard never resets, the best records go there to stay. How high can you try?



--- CRAZY TILT (tm) ---

This is the reason why all this exists. It came out of frustration from using touchscreen controls, but it turned out so nice that it deserved special MAME build and scoreboard add-on. It's a new input method for mobile devices utilizing accelerometer (G-sensor). It's unlike sensor input you may have tried with some other mobile games or emulators. If you think sensor control is clumsy, unresponsive and completely unsuited for arcade games, prepare to be surprised.

Of course there are games that fit this controller better than the other, but overall I think its beats touchscreen controls by far, more of a challenge you need to master, rather than frustration and constant struggle. There is a learning curve, but once you get it starts to feel natural and almost like playing with mind control since it's pretty precise and responsive and kind of goes where you "want it", so you can control it with minimal movement, which in turn makes it easier to perform quicker change in direction.

Star Wars for example is a perfect fit, it's like the game was made for this. Gyruss the same, it feels so intuitive doesn't need any getting used to, like by some instinct those movements come natural and I couldn't stop playing until I broke the record I have on my cabinet. Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, Elevator Action, Crush Roller, Popeye, Moon Patrol, Out Run, Super Hang-On, Commando, Sinistar, Time Pilot... fun, fun, fun! Track and Field, you run by shaking the phone! (See video below)

The interface is modeled like actual arcade joystick, with virtual restriction-plates and virtual micro switches with their push-in and pull-out travel distance, but is not a gimmick, it's what makes it work and is necessary to "guide" and help with the movement, just like with real joysticks, kind of. There is analogue mode for games like Star Wars, Missile Command, Marble Maddens, Out Run and such, and there is digital mode for 2-way vertical, 2-way horizontal, 4-way, 4-way diagonal (Q*bert), and 8-way games. There is also vibration feedback that cues when the joystick has pushed a micro-switch or released, which helps in the beginning to get a feel of where and how much to move/lean the phone for it do what you want it to do. Just don't forget, practice makes it perfect!



--- CRAZY SLO-MO-TIME --- (practice mode)

This is slowdown option to play at 75% or 50% of the real game speed. It's surprisingly fun, it's like bullet-time in Matrix, all in slow-motion, it makes it easy for example to go through Commando 1st stage killing everyone, yet it doesn't feel too slow, to me it felt like I was playing Cannon Fodder, cool! I also used it to pass elevators stage in Donkey Kong at first, but with some practice that now turns to be one of the easier levels, after I perfected how to stop on a dime without going in opposite direction.


The rest is based on MAME4droid, that is MAME4all, that is MAME 0.37ish, with some optimizations and improvements, namely no more visual glitches and audio hiccups or crackling. You only need one hand and couple fingers to play with Crazy Tilt, and if you have that extra hand you don't have to pause anymore just to pick your nose or scratch your bum, you can now even eat an ice-cream while playing! The possibilities are endless.

Classic Arcade Crazy Tilt Challenge,
grandma says Pac-Man has never been so fun!


http://youtu.be/kJBcou5ZjEo

I think Google would not want me to post public link outside Android Market, so whoever is interested I'll send them download link to .apk in a private message. Feel free to share with your friends and enemies alike, the more the merrier, just please do not upload it on the internet. Unless unexpected amount of bugs shows up in the testing period it should be available for download on Android Market pretty soon.
 
There are lots of people here using multi-game boards like 60-in-1, so I find it strange no one is interested in this since both are based on same MAME build and run on the same ARM architecture, it's just that Android devices will have better sound hardware, not to mention other features of this build and many more games it can support.

Could it be all you have iPhones instead of Androids?

Even the crappiest $50 Android devices should be good enough for this, so can someone please explain how is it possible there is complete lack of interest here? I'd surely appreciate if someone would at least try it with TV-out and some CRT so I don't have to buy a new device yet just to test that myself.
 
Oh, I have Android... just not interested.

Um, I am pretty sure you can't legally distribute ROMs with MAME, even if you modified it. Maybe I misunderstood your post... to be fair I skimmed it because it was waaay too long.
Also, don't get so wound up when people don't want to be your free beta testers.
 
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Um, I am pretty sure you can't legally distribute ROMs with MAME, even if you modified it. Maybe I misunderstood your post... to be fair I skimmed it because it was waaay too long.
Also, don't get so wound up when people don't want to be your free beta testers.

Ughh. I'm not distributing ROMs. I see you are not interested, but you forgot to tell me why. I suppose you prefer Fruit Ninja and Angry Birds. You do not have to read the whole post, all you have to know for a start is that this will give you better emulation than 60-in-1, more games and is probably cheaper, especially if you already have Android tablet with HDMI port.

I'm not wound up, just curious. Do you have 60-in-1 or similar multi-board? -- "Free" beta testers? Are you suggesting I should be paying you for months of my hard work to give you something for free? I like you, you're funny. How much would you charge me to play some games anyway?
 
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The problem is the user interface. I couldn't be bothered to read your entire WOT, I really don't have any interest in this because there are no controllers that even begin to compare to my full-size arcade cabinets... And I actually have a mygica "enjoy TV" that would be perfect for it (with the right controller of course). You'd probably get a better response at BYOAC forum.

And I agree with the beta test comment. Why would I want your software on TV when I have this:

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The problem is the user interface.

How would you know if you haven't tried it?

The user interface is pretty much the same as in 60-in-1, with exception that there are no game screenshots yet.


I really don't have any interest in this because there are no controllers that even begin to compare to my full-size arcade cabinets

I said this can be used as a replacement for 60-in-1.

You can use authentic arcade controllers with this, including special ones, like for 720 degrees, Star Wars yoke, trackballs, spinners... anything.

Does that change your mind then?


And I agree with the beta test comment. Why would I want your software on TV when I have this:

Because it is better. Better sound and more games, plus global scoreboard.

Perhaps you would like to reconsider your opinion now?


Also, you would not be helping bootleggers to profit of someone else's work, andyou would not be paying for something that is free. Then you could donate some of that saved money where it should really go, to MAME developers, which is not me by the way.
 
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Oh, I don't know, DRIVERMAN. Why don't we just let your words speak for themselves?

Ok. So, what do you think about this new MAME build for Android phones & tablets? Wanna try it out, maybe put it in your cabinet? How do you like the idea to have global scoreboard, and arcade machines that PAY OUT tokens, ain't that cool?
 
Ok. So, what do you think about this new MAME build for Android phones & tablets? Wanna try it out, maybe put it in your cabinet? How do you like the idea to have global scoreboard, and arcade machines that PAY OUT tokens, ain't that cool?


Look, your 720 spinner hack was crap, your "global scoreboard" idea, which you have been beating to death for a year, is also a hack at best, and playing MAME games on my Android Phone not something I am dying to do.
 
How would you know if you haven't tried it?

The user interface is pretty much the same as in 60-in-1, with exception that there are no game screenshots yet.
Get back to me when I can buy an android device with a JAMMA edge connector and 15KHz video.
 
Get back to me when I can buy an android device with a JAMMA edge connector and 15KHz video.

You need adapter/converter.

You can easily make or cheaply buy JAMMA-USB adapter for controls. Ask Yotsuya about all this, that stuff he knows.

For video, it depends what kind of monitor you have and functionality you can get through your tablet's TV-out port.

Of course this build seem more suited for people already using LCD monitors or if TV/monitor has HDMI input, but getting 15KHz RGB or at least composite should be possible via converters/adapters, if not directly out of the device.

Unfortunately I'll have to buy at least couple of tablets to be able to properly test it and tell you more about it, unless there are some kind folks around here willing to spend 5 minutes and try it out for me(us), then we will know sooner.
 
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Look, your 720 spinner hack was crap, your "global scoreboard" idea, which you have been beating to death for a year, is also a hack at best, and playing MAME games on my Android Phone not something I am dying to do.

You wouldn't know as you haven't tried it, nor are you programmer to be able to judge what is hack and whether that is a good or bad thing.

My 720 driver is not "hack", it works exactly as the real PCB does. Driver in MAME is a hack, which is not a bad thing in itself, it's just that it does not work properly, and everyone else realized this by now except you.

Global scoreboard is a hack, I have to hack and crack each game to figure out where and how it stores scores, and so the scoreboard works.

You will try it eventually and you will see how cool it is. It's for arcade games what online multi-player is for Quake. Almost a new experience, certainly new motive and desire to play, it is the essence of arcade games re-playability and overall appeal, which apparently you forgot about or have never experienced yourself.

I have not been beating scoreboard to death, I just made it few weeks ago. A year ago is when I offered to make it for your desktop MAME, just like I offered to give you my BIOS drivers so you can boot a PC at 15kHz on arcade monitors, and just like I offered to give you lag-free parallel interface, but you guys can't even realize parallel transfer is faster than serial and is how most arcade input actually works. I think you guys on BYOAC are not even playing these games when you are oblivious to so many problems you are bound to have if using official MAME build, you seem to be stuck in some limbo where all you care about is just collecting ROMs and never-ending setups and configurations.


Crazy Tilt is new input method for mobile device modeled like actual arcade joystick. I would think a guy from *Build Your Own Arcade Controls* should be at least interested to check out such novel concept, but you prefer to invest effort in your trolling, trying to put me down based on your hallucinations and blinded by your purposeless anger when I do nothing but help you and your community to make this hobby better and truer to authentic arcade experience. If you wanna see a troll, look in a mirror. I am freaking Sandy Claws! Stop being a nightmare before the Christmas and let me deliver these gifts, the children are expecting me!
 
Again, I'll let your words speak for themselves. Your delusions of grandeur are good for a laugh until it gets annoying, and you're more than halfway there.
 
Again, I'll let your words speak for themselves. Your delusions of grandeur are good for a laugh until it gets annoying, and you're more than halfway there.

You keep taking about ME?! This is about ARCADE GAMES. Stop trolling and stop making fun of yourself, you can not have opinion if you have not tried it, your logic circuit seem to be malfunctioning.

I talk nicely of myself only because I know that offends you like an insult to your own person, it's hilarious. It's because of your vanity, not mine. I will let you insult me as I enjoy watching foam coming of your mouth.

You are not on BYOAC, if these folks don't care about what I have to give, then I don't think they will care any more about your trolling, you will get us both banned my dear human child, so now that you have said what you got I ask you to stop stalking me, I bid you good bye and wish you good luck. Ciao!
 
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Yotsuya,

I now have my own forum, please come over there if you feel like talking to Driver-man, trolling or whatever. Tell all your friends from BYOAC they are all welcome too. None of you will get banned and you are free to go nuts with insults, just please make it funny. If you make insults that are not funny or have no point, then your post might get deleted so you can rephrase it until it's polite, or funny at least as much as insulting. I'm not Driver-man by the way, I'm the Lazy Cat.


http://smf.webng.com/crazytilt


Anyone else also feel free to come over and discuss the possibility of turning Android tablets into better than 60-in-1 multi-game boards. I ordered two tablets, so in a few weeks I should know more about how it all (HDMI) works with CRT and LCD monitors.
 
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Classic Arcade Crazy Tilt Challenge,
grandma says Pac-Man has never been so fun!


http://youtu.be/kJBcou5ZjEo

I think Google would not want me to post public link outside Android Market, so whoever is interested I'll send them download link to .apk in a private message. Feel free to share with your friends and enemies alike, the more the merrier, just please do not upload it on the internet. Unless unexpected amount of bugs shows up in the testing period it should be available for download on Android Market pretty soon.

This is total fucking vaporware. I watched your video of mame screen-captures and wasn't impressed.

Good trick.
 
This is total fucking vaporware. I watched your video of mame screen-captures and wasn't impressed.

Good trick.

Mhhmm?!?


There has been MAME on Android Market for couple years now:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seleuco.mame4all&feature=search_result

...and more recent MAME port:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seleuco.mame4droid&feature=search_result


...together they have more than half million downloads, do you think that is "screen-captures" too? Or are you referring to my sensor controls only?

What part do you find hard to believe, why would you think it's a trick?


It's real my friend, but I'll take your great surprise as a compliment and sign that I have indeed created something very cool, not to say UNBELIEVABLE, which i suppose it is. So, thank you, that's probably the best compliment you could ever give me.
 
umm your "sensor controls" are obviously faked in the video, as you forget to do your fake "jump" motion half the time. You do seem to enjoy talking to yourself though, so I'll leave you to that.
 
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