Carpeted Driveways?

Well the carpet is in and am not satisfied with the install one bit. They shorted the carpet in 2 areas. The pattern does not match. They scratched ALL my new wood work.

DO NOT USE Olson Rug.

I will not know what happens next until later today (Thursday).
 
yeah woodwork always gets scratched when installing carpet, theres really no way around that. the backing is stiff, there is no way around it. if theyre painted you might have to touch them up. if theyre finished some old english should do the trick. we would normally polish people's woodwork before leaving but if its painted then you might have to touch it up. some scratching of the wall isnt even unusual, its one of those unavoidable things. i learned the trade from my grandpa who did it for over 55 years and my dad who is in for over 30. sounds like you got a hack job, not that surprising nowadays when everyone is looking for a cheap deal instead of willing to pay for experience and superior service. shit even at our store there were a bunch of mexicans and i was amazed at some of the slop jobs they put in. if you have skill in flooring you do vinyl sheet goods or ceramic tiles, the pay is better, the hacks end up doing carpet exclusively because you can always stretch it a couple inches. give the carpet guys vinyl jobs and they will end up losing money when they screw it up. carpet is easy. the pay is good because the only real skills involved other than using a tape measure and some blades are working with large rolls and getting it in straight.

anyways, the installer is always going to try and blame the manufacturer because if they have to reinstall the floor it comes out of their paycheck. if its not something they can repair, and it doesnt sound like it is, then you are entitled to a new floor, period. doesnt matter if its manufacturers fault or the installers. or maybe you can get them to refund the cost of installation if you can live with it, let the guys who tossed it in lose their pay for that day of work.

my advice is be rational and friendly but persistent with whoever you deal with. dont be condescending and dont act like its the end of the world, people make mistakes there is no such thing as a carpet emergency. treat people with respect and they should be willing to make things right for you.
 
one more general comment: you think its weird rolling a carpet out in the driveway during the summer? how do you think they do it in the winter??? see, that is where experience really matters. its amazing way more damage doesnt happen when working on floors. think about it, you have a stiff roll of something 12 or 15 feet wide and a room thats maybe 9 or 10 feet wide, how do you roll it out without damaging the product itself or everything in the room around it?

floor installation is one of those jobs that is way easier in the summer than in the winter. its also one of those jobs where there are easy days and hard days. sometimes you roll it out and make money. other times you are snaking a 20+ foot long roll with some six hundred pounds or more of weight up a couple flights of stairs in some nursing home, cutting and seaming several dozen doorways. or there is always the old man with bad aim and you are finally replacing his floor after he pissed on it since 1970 whatever. nothing like circular saw and crowbar ripping out layer after layer of rotten piss floor around the toilet hole...still, if you can do a bathroom vinyl floor with underlayment in 3-4 hours, and that is a job one person can easily do, you can average $30-$50 an hour. since i quit and my grandpa retired my dad survives just fine doing a couple bathrooms a week.
 
yeah woodwork always gets scratched when installing carpet, theres really no way around that. the backing is stiff, there is no way around it. if theyre painted you might have to touch them up. if theyre finished some old english should do the trick. we would normally polish people's woodwork before leaving but if its painted then you might have to touch it up. some scratching of the wall isnt even unusual, its one of those unavoidable things. i learned the trade from my grandpa who did it for over 55 years and my dad who is in for over 30. sounds like you got a hack job, not that surprising nowadays when everyone is looking for a cheap deal instead of willing to pay for experience and superior service. shit even at our store there were a bunch of mexicans and i was amazed at some of the slop jobs they put in. if you have skill in flooring you do vinyl sheet goods or ceramic tiles, the pay is better, the hacks end up doing carpet exclusively because you can always stretch it a couple inches. give the carpet guys vinyl jobs and they will end up losing money when they screw it up. carpet is easy. the pay is good because the only real skills involved other than using a tape measure and some blades are working with large rolls and getting it in straight.

anyways, the installer is always going to try and blame the manufacturer because if they have to reinstall the floor it comes out of their paycheck. if its not something they can repair, and it doesnt sound like it is, then you are entitled to a new floor, period. doesnt matter if its manufacturers fault or the installers. or maybe you can get them to refund the cost of installation if you can live with it, let the guys who tossed it in lose their pay for that day of work.

my advice is be rational and friendly but persistent with whoever you deal with. dont be condescending and dont act like its the end of the world, people make mistakes there is no such thing as a carpet emergency. treat people with respect and they should be willing to make things right for you.


Thanks for the advice. I did not sleep last night and I was extremely upset. I sent the carpet installers an e-mail with the pics. I have oak baseboards. I think they were in a rush to finish because they were 5 hours late. You make some good points and I will remain calm when I talk to the installers.
 
Don't move a single game in there yet.

Call the company, ask to speak with the owner, and invite them to come out and see if they feel this is a satisfactory install that reflects their company's work.

99 times out of 100, it will solve your problem.

Really sorry to hear of your trouble.
 
Thanks for the advice. I did not sleep last night and I was extremely upset. I sent the carpet installers an e-mail with the pics. I have oak baseboards. I think they were in a rush to finish because they were 5 hours late. You make some good points and I will remain calm when I talk to the installers.

Think "professional". Stay calm, don't make demands and threats about chargebacks. You will get *much* farther with honey because you're the unusual customer that is not being an asshole. Then if they turn out to be bums, still don't threaten. Just part ways and take the necessary actions to protect your investment.
 
Here are a few pics of one of the problems, installation issues. I don't have the repeat pattern pics with me. The one at the top of the stairs he says he ran out of carpet. That is BS because I ordered 900 sqft of carpet for an area approx 600 sqft, based off the installer's company's measurements.

No news from the manufacter or the installer company yet.

Edit: There are 2 seams in the Gameroom that do not match and it is a 20' line too. No pics at the moment.
 

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Here are a few pics of one of the problems, installation issues. I don't have the repeat pattern pics with me. The one at the top of the stairs he says he ran out of carpet. That is BS because I ordered 900 sqft of carpet for an area approx 600 sqft, based off the installer's company's measurements.

No news from the manufacter or the installer company yet.

To me, those couple of steps would not be an issue. I was thinking you meant that where they seemed the carpet, the pattern did not line up. I would also not be pleased if that were the case. And that woodwork damage should be take into consideration. My freshly painted living room got scuffs and scratches on the wall during the new carpet install. I just repainted those areas, but your oak finished wood is not so easily done. Hope it all gets taken care of.
 
To me, those couple of steps would not be an issue. I was thinking you meant that where they seemed the carpet, the pattern did not line up. I would also not be pleased if that were the case. And that woodwork damage should be take into consideration. My freshly painted living room got scuffs and scratches on the wall during the new carpet install. I just repainted those areas, but your oak finished wood is not so easily done. Hope it all gets taken care of.

Actually it is just the top step only, all the other steps are perfect. :)
 
Actually it is just the top step only, all the other steps are perfect. :)

Well if it is just that one step, I think the installation company could be convinced to pay for and install a small replacement section for you. The woodwork is a toughie.
 
Although I'd pissed that I'd have to fix the scuffs on the wood, it looks like you could take a sanding block, scuff each 'piece', then brush a coat of satin clear (whatever you used) over that and the scratches would disappear. Still not something you expected to need to do.
 
thats a lousy install job, you can see the shit job they did trimming around that door jamb. that top step is totally unacceptable, if they did the measurement its their fault and they should fix it for no charge. i would love to see pics of the seam...
 
thats a lousy install job, you can see the shit job they did trimming around that door jamb. that top step is totally unacceptable, if they did the measurement its their fault and they should fix it for no charge. i would love to see pics of the seam...

Here it is.
 

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forgive me, but if they end up ripping it all up in big pieces id be interested. Just putting it out there man..

that blows dude! yeah man they did not to a very good job with that at all. Scratching the woodwork just puts icing on the cake.

I would not be happy with that installation either.
 
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