badlands pick up needs pedal fix

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badlands pick up needs pedal fix
everything works but pedals. saw few posts from few years back was wondering if anyone has 2 working ones or if aftermarket ones? or? thanks
 

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Somebody made some new silicon for theirs with some solo cups, I believe. The whole thing is the original pedals are pressure sensitive, there was a kind of cone shaped silicone (or something similar) that sat under the pedal and on the sensor that over the years disintegrates and melts all over the damn place. I've still got stains on my carpet from mine in my showroom.

So somebody I believe here on KLOV took some cups, and poured some sort of silicone in them as a mold and let it set up, then pulled it out and it worked.

On mine I just switched to some with potentiometers.

I think there was a Star Tech Journal 'tech' hint about it once, and they chose to put an acceleration button on the dash or something crazy like that.
 
It should work with a pot as the pedals feed into an LM556 which uses a resistor input to control it (a timer/oscillator). What that resistor is would require someone to test the range measured from an original or some time testing/reading the manuals.

The LM556 dual-timing circuit is a highly-stable controller capable of producing accurate time delays or oscillation. The LM556 device is a dual-timing version of the LM555 device. Timing is provided by an external resistor and capacitor for each timing function.
 
Here's a copy of the Star-Tech article from Vol. 13, Issue 1, along with photos of my pedals showing the mylar membrane switch.
 

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I rebuilt mine similar to how "smpoponi" did in this thread:
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=266649

though I have my leafswitch next to the spring, not through it. I also didn't add the resistor as mentioned in the Star-Tech article as I didn't see the need for it. I got the springs from Home Depot. The package shown includes to 7/8" springs that work perfectly.
 

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If you really wanted analog, you might be able to use a spring like that, with a flex sensor (like: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10264 ). I used one of them to make my thrust button analog for Lunar Lander on my Asteroids Multi.

But yeah, everyone just mashes the pedal, so it's probably not needed.

DogP
 
The game's test menu shows them as being analog pedals, but as you can see from the photos, the pedal uses a membrane switch, and you can't get analog input from that :) Besides, when playing the game (with a switch), the car slowly speeds up when you push the pedal, and slows down when you leave off it, so IMO the game plays exactly the same with the switch.
 
Good to know, but without the silicon mound they're unusable. Sure, you can grab a tube of silicon and make your own, but with no discernible difference in gameplay using a switch, why waste the time and effort? I had both pedals rebuilt within 10 minutes. And with Badlands being the only (?) game to use that setup, how many people actually want to keep using the OEM setup?
 
Good to know, but without the silicon mound they're unusable. Sure, you can grab a tube of silicon and make your own, but with no discernible difference in gameplay using a switch, why waste the time and effort? I had both pedals rebuilt within 10 minutes. And with Badlands being the only (?) game to use that setup, how many people actually want to keep using the OEM setup?


because the original is variable speed and the rebuilding with a microswitch is an all on or all off solution.

so the better solution is to find a road blasters like pedal. I think you have add 5v to use the pot.
 
I understand the technical difference between them, Bill. I'm saying, from a game playing experience with this game, there's really no difference.
 
I understand the technical difference between them, Bill. I'm saying, from a game playing experience with this game, there's really no difference.


I have only played the game a few times, but I would think going less than max speed all the time might be useful. Plus since the game is jamma, you might as well wire it up for pot. Then you can look to play other driving games in that cab.
 
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