ATV Tracker motion problems.

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I recently purchaced a ATV tracker arcade game. The game plays fine but there is no motion. I cannot find any connection problems. It gives an inital bump in the motion test. Not really sure where to start looking. Also the steering motor continually pulls to the left. any ideas?
 
ATV Track: Quads Over Amazon? You're the little snot that outbid me at the auction in Waukesha, aren't you?
 
Error codes

the one on the left (as looking into the back of the cabinet) reads "HF" and a "96" the other "ih" & "0.00" upon start up. No Rick I am not the "snot" but I did buy at a diffrent auction and out bid a few people. Now I feel bad :(
 
the one on the left (as looking into the back of the cabinet) reads "HF" and a "96" the other "ih" & "0.00" upon start up. No Rick I am not the "snot" but I did buy at a diffrent auction and out bid a few people. Now I feel bad :(

HF code is Hardware Failure. Try to swap it to the other side and see if the code is the same. You will need to change the connector harness to swap them. Both of the Commander SE's are the same. Both are programmed with the same parameters.

I believe the ih 0.00 unit is in standby mode.
 
update

Ok, the controller on the left was giving the code HF 96 which according to the advanced user guide it is an internal fault and should reset by powering up and down. It keeps coming up so I took your advice and switched the right and left units. Now it is coming up on the right side now. So I guess I am going to try to contact somone at Control Techniques and see what I can do from there. I am open to any and all suggestions.
 
So today I contacted someone at Contol Techniques. The lady informed me that the HF code indicated a internal drive failure (whaa, whaa whaaa). The SE unit is obsolete, but I can get a new SK 1200075 unit which is the newer version for around $275. I hope this takes care of it as neither one of the motors worked. Wouldn't at least one side work if it were just one of the controlers?
 
So today I contacted someone at Contol Techniques. The lady informed me that the HF code indicated a internal drive failure (whaa, whaa whaaa). The SE unit is obsolete, but I can get a new SK 1200075 unit which is the newer version for around $275. I hope this takes care of it as neither one of the motors worked. Wouldn't at least one side work if it were just one of the controlers?

Usually, if a motion game detects ANY fault in the motion sysetm, it will refuse to run motion, as a safety precaution. Sometimes it'll still try in test mode, sometimes not, it depends on the game.

Did they explicitly say that the SK unit is a fully compatible drop-in replacement? It's not like you can just tweak the game code to use a different controller, so this is important to follow up on. Make it clear to them that you cannot modify the hardware or software on the controlling computer.
 
So today I contacted someone at Contol Techniques. The lady informed me that the HF code indicated a internal drive failure (whaa, whaa whaaa). The SE unit is obsolete, but I can get a new SK 1200075 unit which is the newer version for around $275. I hope this takes care of it as neither one of the motors worked. Wouldn't at least one side work if it were just one of the controlers?

I have a bad one here also. There are a ton of caps in it. I wonder if it would come back to life if you recaped it.

I have a machine here with 1 good Commander SE. I'm still on the fence as to part it or repair it (needs tons of parts. Made 1 good one out of 2).

If you buy a used one that was used for another application. Make sure it's unlocked. If you don't have the 4 digit code you can't change the parameters.
 
I think i will call them tomorrow to confirm that it could be directly hooked up with the other one. Refering to the new SK one unless you would be willing to part with the one you have. I am also having problems with the steering motor, it just wants to pull one direction when powered up. I suspect it is in the drive board, but I am trying to handle one problem at a time. Thanks eveyone for imput.
 
Ok, so I dropped $265 to get a new commander unit. It is the sk commander which replaces the se commander. Went thru and connected the new unit. I go to the motion test. The old commnder SE is reading trip code OI.AC I looked in the manual and it reads: Insufficient ramp times
Phase to phase or phase to earth short circut at drive output
Drive requires autotuning to motor
Motor to motor connections changed re-autotune drive to motor.

I looked up the autotune and it is set in parameter 38 with the current value of 0 which to my understanding is off.

I am not sure what to do now any ideas???
 
i paid 250 plus bidders fee plus tax now add 265 for new controller and I am nearing the $600 mark. Lesson learned. Just another tuiton payment at the school of hard knocks.
 
Ok, so I dropped $265 to get a new commander unit. It is the sk commander which replaces the se commander. Went thru and connected the new unit. I go to the motion test. The old commnder SE is reading trip code OI.AC I looked in the manual and it reads:

It's pretty much explicitly telling you there's a problem downstream of the controller -- your old SE unit may have nothing wrong with it internally, meaning you just dropped $265 for nothing.

Insufficient ramp times

This says to me "motor's resistance is too high or is failing to move." Either way a bad motor, so let's start with the others first:

Phase to phase or phase to earth short circut at drive output

This is easy to check for. You should read some ohms from each of the four leads to the motor. Check them at the controller unit; if any combination reads a short (<1ohm), you have a wiring fault or the motor itself is bad.

Drive requires autotuning to motor

Sounds like you need to run some kind of automatic calibration. The manual should say how to do this; however, check for shorts first.

Motor to motor connections changed re-autotune drive to motor.

Same thing. If none of the above works, look up "autotuning" in the manual, it's probably some menu thing you need to select.

I looked up the autotune and it is set in parameter 38 with the current value of 0 which to my understanding is off.

Well, how do you turn it on? The "autotuning" part says to me "this controller can calibrate itself, you just have to explicitly tell it to." Set it to 1 maybe?
 
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Ok, so I dropped $265 to get a new commander unit. It is the sk commander which replaces the se commander. Went thru and connected the new unit. I go to the motion test. The old commnder SE is reading trip code OI.AC I looked in the manual and it reads: Insufficient ramp times
Phase to phase or phase to earth short circut at drive output
Drive requires autotuning to motor
Motor to motor connections changed re-autotune drive to motor.

I looked up the autotune and it is set in parameter 38 with the current value of 0 which to my understanding is off.

I am not sure what to do now any ideas???

Have you programmed all 44 parameters shown on page 50 of the ATV Track manual?
 
Progress! I went through the parameters on the new unit last night and set them to the ones in the ATV manual. There were a few that were few that were not exact and the new controler has a few more and some of the values were slightly diffrent. At the end of the day I have the old controller (on the right as you sit on it) working as it should. The new one on the left side turns on and just seems to run in one direction with no variance in speed or direction. At least I know I have two good controllers and both motors work. I am pretty sure it has something to do with the parameters. I will try to call Control Techniques when I get a chance see if they can offer any insight. I am excited to get this working. Thanks guys for the help so far. I'll keep you posted.
 
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