Anyone familiar with Battletoads?

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I received my Battletoads PCB courtesy of astrodan here on the board, and everything is great, but I'm still left with two questions.

A. The manual I found online seems to refer to an on screen menu where you can change coin settings and look at diagnostics, and I can't seem to figure out how to access this. It's not a big deal, but I like to be able to look at this stuff. I see the dip switches with no problem, but I can't figure out how to access the menu. The only other thing I see on the board is a reset button which only does precisely that.

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B. Does this game require a special harness for the third player? I'm running the board in my Sunset Riders cabinet, and the standard kick harness for the Konami / Midway games doesn't seem to fit properly. If it does require a special harness, does anyone here have one or know where I can get it?
 
Look in the manual for the pinout diagram for the wiring harness. If should say there is a test button that should be wired up..the opposite side should be credit/service..I bet the diagram also shows where the third players buttons are on the standard jamma connector. You would be surprised how many games squish extra buttons on the harness at the end where extra ground wires are usually located.......
 
Not sure if I fully understand your question about the onscreen menu. Does your cabinet have a service switch? I'm pretty sure that's how I changed settings last time I played (this is going from memory. I haven't played Battletoads for about a year).

If you are running your Battletoads in a Konami cab, you are correct, the pinouts are different for Battletoads and Sunset Riders for the 3rd and 4th player. You'll have to make a special harness from the Battletoads board so the third player will work properly in your Konami cabinet.

Below is the pinout for Battletoads 3rd player and below that is the pinout for a dedicated Konami cab. Basically what you need to do is get an extra Konami harness and cross the wires with your Battletoads harness. You'll also need a need a connector to connect both Konami connectors together. It's no big deal.



1 | Ground |
| 2 | N/C |
| 3 | N/C |
| 4 | N/C |
| 5 | Coin 3 |
| 6 | Start 3 |
| 7 | Up 3 |
| 8 | Down 3 |
| 9 | Left 3 |
| 10 | Right 3 |
| 11 | Action 3 |
| 12 | Jump 3 |
| 13 | N/C |
| 14 | N/C |
| 15 | N/C |
-----------------

CN3,4 (PL 3 & 4)
------------ ------------ ------
1 COIN
2 ----
3 LEFT
4 RIGHT
5 UP
6 DOWN
7 SHOOT
8 JUMP
9 ----
10 ----
11 ----
12
13 ----
14 ----
15 GND
 
I thought this one was like simpsons and TMNT? Where player had its own Frog? I never played this in the arcade. Only on the Nes.
Not sure if I fully understand your question about the onscreen menu. Does your cabinet have a service switch? I'm pretty sure that's how I changed settings last time I played (this is going from memory. I haven't played Battletoads for about a year).

If you are running your Battletoads in a Konami cab, you are correct, the pinouts are different for Battletoads and Sunset Riders for the 3rd and 4th player. You'll have to make a special harness from the Battletoads board so the third player will work properly in your Konami cabinet.

Below is the pinout for Battletoads 3rd player and below that is the pinout for a dedicated Konami cab. Basically what you need to do is get an extra Konami harness and cross the wires with your Battletoads harness. You'll also need a need a connector to connect both Konami connectors together. It's no big deal.



1 | Ground |
| 2 | N/C |
| 3 | N/C |
| 4 | N/C |
| 5 | Coin 3 |
| 6 | Start 3 |
| 7 | Up 3 |
| 8 | Down 3 |
| 9 | Left 3 |
| 10 | Right 3 |
| 11 | Action 3 |
| 12 | Jump 3 |
| 13 | N/C |
| 14 | N/C |
| 15 | N/C |
-----------------

CN3,4 (PL 3 & 4)
------------ ------------ ------
1 COIN
2 ----
3 LEFT
4 RIGHT
5 UP
6 DOWN
7 SHOOT
8 JUMP
9 ----
10 ----
11 ----
12
13 ----
14 ----
15 GND
 
I have a dedicated Konami cab, also. I play all kinds of Capcom and other 3 and 4 player games in it. You just have to make adaptors for third and fourth players to play in the cab.
 
I thought this one was like simpsons and TMNT? Where player had its own Frog? I never played this in the arcade. Only on the Nes.

Battletoads actually has a dipswitch to toggle between two and three players. If you switch it to three players, each player will be assigned a specific character, if you switch it to two players then players one and two can choose who they want to play as.

Thanks for the info on the wiring harness, I suppose it's really not that important, I can just live with two players on this one. The in game menu still confounds me however, the manual is not specific about how to access it, and my cabinet has no auxillary service switch, the Konami PCBs all have their own button on the board to access their menu.
 
Battletoads actually has a dipswitch to toggle between two and three players. If you switch it to three players, each player will be assigned a specific character, if you switch it to two players then players one and two can choose who they want to play as.

Thanks for the info on the wiring harness, I suppose it's really not that important, I can just live with two players on this one. The in game menu still confounds me however, the manual is not specific about how to access it, and my cabinet has no auxillary service switch, the Konami PCBs all have their own button on the board to access their menu.
I'm kind of surprised there isn't a test button wired up for your Sunset Riders cab. Lots of Konami games from that era did (at least my X-Men and Simpsons machines do). Is your Sunset Riders a conversion cab? If it is then it's very possible the test switch was never wired up.
 
Now if its a Main Event cab those did'nt have a test switch either.
I'm kind of surprised there isn't a test button wired up for your Sunset Riders cab. Lots of Konami games from that era did (at least my X-Men and Simpsons machines do). Is your Sunset Riders a conversion cab? If it is then it's very possible the test switch was never wired up.
 
I'm kind of surprised there isn't a test button wired up for your Sunset Riders cab. Lots of Konami games from that era did (at least my X-Men and Simpsons machines do). Is your Sunset Riders a conversion cab? If it is then it's very possible the test switch was never wired up.

As best I can tell, my Sunset Riders cabinet was converted from TMNT, which may not have had a service switch since it used dipswitches rather than a service menu
 
As best I can tell, my Sunset Riders cabinet was converted from TMNT, which may not have had a service switch since it used dipswitches rather than a service menu
Yeah I would have to agree with that. If you wanted to get into the test mode, you'd need to add a test switch and wire it into the JAMMA harness. Not terribly hard to do at all.
 
Great game at least the Arcade version is playable the NES version is damn near impossible. :D I guess its the smaller molex pins for that kick harness they come in 2 standard sizes .156 and .100 and my guess is that you need the smaller .100 molex pins and plastic housing.
 
not to dig up an old post (i didn't see it or i would have chimed in) my battletoads as a button to push and it pulls up all the diag stuff.
 
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