Germany is as bad, if not worse than Italy and France. Unfortunately, it is usually a crapshoot.
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=158560&highlight=germany+customs
Any safe way to sell a game overseas? Italy?
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Germany is as bad, if not worse than Italy and France. Unfortunately, it is usually a crapshoot.
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=158560&highlight=germany+customs
kencinder
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Nobody thinks anyone from the rest of the world is evil, but stats from sellers to certain overseas countries don't lie, not when they've come from hundreds of sellers.
Yes it's not the Italian Postal Service it's going via...but I would imagine it still goes through Italian customs(which has been known to be the primary spot where things wind up going missing, not the postal service itself), and we're just telling the seller to cover his ass because of this.
Get upset if you're from one of these countries, that's fine...but maybe you should take it up with your government as these things don't come about just by being made up fairy tales.
Other problem countries include Greece, The Philippines and Singapore off the top of my head...I don't know anyone who will ship there without being highly reluctant because of thefts by customs/postal workers.
That it's a full machine, I would feel more at ease. If it was just a boardset or parts, I'm sorry but I would not under any circumstances take the risk.
Yes it's not the Italian Postal Service it's going via...but I would imagine it still goes through Italian customs(which has been known to be the primary spot where things wind up going missing, not the postal service itself), and we're just telling the seller to cover his ass because of this.
Get upset if you're from one of these countries, that's fine...but maybe you should take it up with your government as these things don't come about just by being made up fairy tales.
Other problem countries include Greece, The Philippines and Singapore off the top of my head...I don't know anyone who will ship there without being highly reluctant because of thefts by customs/postal workers.
That it's a full machine, I would feel more at ease. If it was just a boardset or parts, I'm sorry but I would not under any circumstances take the risk.
XNIF
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Yes. But you are all talking about postal services. I am talking about having an adres in the US for packaging/shipping. So no other services are used. Shipping your own containers can be a lot cheaper. You just have to import a lot i guess. There are plenty of larger companies that work that way. Why not partner up, and pay them their fee. In the end its cheaper and safe.
Mavrk
Active member
IJTFCinder,
I agreed with you but I offered a bank transfer more than that what can I do? help me to work out this thing if you can
Shipping is on my responsability, payment is by bank wire transfer, I see no problem At ALL
Of course nobody can convince you of the opposite (if you think it is unsafe anyway to give a game to NAVL (that underline is paid and hired by me not by the seller)
Hope to have clarified the whole thing,
Anyway since - as long as I 've understood from the post the only problem is the money (that Mike would like to have cash)
Is there anybody who can help me to deliver him the money cash?
I can pay with a money order, bank or everything you prefer,
Hope you can help me
Thanks
Mav
I agreed with you but I offered a bank transfer more than that what can I do? help me to work out this thing if you can
Shipping is on my responsability, payment is by bank wire transfer, I see no problem At ALL
Of course nobody can convince you of the opposite (if you think it is unsafe anyway to give a game to NAVL (that underline is paid and hired by me not by the seller)
Hope to have clarified the whole thing,
Anyway since - as long as I 've understood from the post the only problem is the money (that Mike would like to have cash)
Is there anybody who can help me to deliver him the money cash?
I can pay with a money order, bank or everything you prefer,
Hope you can help me
Thanks
Mav
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kencinder
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No Mavrk, you're spot on with going about it that way. You're helping and encouraging the seller to cover his own ass.
The OP asked for opinions, and yes I suppose we have based them on the occurrences of smaller items, but it's just that...our opinions on what we've all experienced or heard from others.
You are offering to do what was suggested, arranging shipping yourself and making payment in a manner secure to the seller.
I'd also suggest to you, that your means of shipping have adequate insurance. You don't want to be out anything yourself, should it get "lost" or damaged.
The OP asked for opinions, and yes I suppose we have based them on the occurrences of smaller items, but it's just that...our opinions on what we've all experienced or heard from others.
You are offering to do what was suggested, arranging shipping yourself and making payment in a manner secure to the seller.
I'd also suggest to you, that your means of shipping have adequate insurance. You don't want to be out anything yourself, should it get "lost" or damaged.
Mavrk
Active member
Yeah IJTFC,
I hope he read this post yet and see my good faith and feedback from the people from all around the world I had business in previous years
About the insurance, Yes I already have included in the quote for these little jewels during shipping.
Anyway I ask you to Help me for this quest,
As long as I have understood Mike want to feel safe with "money cash"
Can anyone on the forum help me to make him have these money cash?
Thank you for your support
Mav
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For what it's worth... I sold my last Q*bert to a nice Italian guy back in 2001. It was an eBay auction. He paid a lot of money to have the game picked up and shipped. I didn't make any of the arrangements. He paid me with a bank checka dn waited until I was satisfied it had been deposited before he had the game picked up. It took something like 4 months for him to get it but he did get it and he was very happy.
It was sort of cool knowing where it went and I have told people about it many times.
It was sort of cool knowing where it went and I have told people about it many times.
Here's something rare headed to the Netherlands
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=178277
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=178277
Mavrk
Active member
Incredible! He is a friend of mine!
I've been in his house some year ago (now he has sold many games to me becasue got married and hiw new mate doens't like space occupied by coin op's!)
Hope your experience is read by Mike..
Mav
EVB
Well-known member
The issue with Brazil is they tax imports 60% of the value. I will not let any bidders from Brazil bid on my auctions unless they cry about it and don't ask me to falsify the item value on customs forms. But initially they will be blocked.
I've shipped to Italy several times and never had an issue. International money order and he arranges shipping should be no problem at all.
I've shipped to Italy several times and never had an issue. International money order and he arranges shipping should be no problem at all.
nerdygrrl
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I own a small shipping company. We ship about 10,000-12,000 packages a year. Mostly tee shirts, comic books, and vinyl collectable toys. Italian customs are a nightmare.
1. they are very strict
2. they are effing corrupt.
They are about as reliable as Mexico. I have had more packages make it to Saudi Arabia and Baghdad this year than Italy.
If you are going to ship to Italy insist on global priority or fed ex (something with tracking) and get insurance.
1. they are very strict
2. they are effing corrupt.
They are about as reliable as Mexico. I have had more packages make it to Saudi Arabia and Baghdad this year than Italy.
If you are going to ship to Italy insist on global priority or fed ex (something with tracking) and get insurance.
Uh...wait a minute, are we talking something small or an arcade cabinet? I thought the OP was asking about a full-size arcade game cab.
Overseas shipping can be easy if you use the right company for logistics. Back in the day, our game company shipped out about dozen or so full-size games to various countries.... some destinations were: UK, Austria, Switzerland. Shipped a MACH III cockpit which is pretty f'n big.
The company we used back then was called DANZAS. I think they may have changed names or been bought out. Either way, make sure you have full communication with the buyer, and the shipping agent. Payment can be handled through an escrow account, and the shipping agent should be able to take care of most of the paperwork. It's super important you have all the paperwork ready so when the game reaches customs, there aren't any delays or hidden costs to the buyer.
You will have to build yourself a wooden crate for the game, or have someone build one for you. This cost should be passed to the buyer. Easiest way to build a crate is to use a Pepsi or Coke pallet which tend to be smaller than the traditional wood pallet. The pepsi/coke pallets are around 36x32. I would mount small blocks on the pallet and then use some cheap MDF plywood cut to size and create the walls. Of course, the game would be wrapped in both cardboard, pallet wrap, and then pallet strapped prior to crating up. Everyone has their own method....mine worked pretty well.
The process is simple but can be daunting the first time.... if you have a good gut feeling about the buyer, then do the deal.
Good luck.
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Mavrk
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True, but you are talking about shipping normal items like packages, right? Not arcade cabs
Mav
Mavrk
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XNIF
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Or find someone near him that is willing to ship to italy and let him buy the cab first. Someone intermediating might work ... That is if you know someone.
nerdygrrl
Well-known member
True, I didn't realize there would be a difference with Italian customs.
I hope this works out for everyone. I have been thinking about offering international shipping for folks on here. I know a lot of sellers don't want to ship overseas. I have some friends in Australia that might have some parts shipped to my warehouse and then I would ship them out.
Good luck with your sale/purchase I would love to find out who you used for freight. I am thinking about having a game shipped over from the UK.
RLEVIN
Permanently Banned. Buyer Beware. Questionable bus
call me and I will set you up for that we ship oversea's and have him do a wire transfer to your account so you will not have any issues. Also it will have to be super palleted with double cardboard and corner protectors and strapped and we use 2x4's to support the game
MythTrip
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I've made a few purchases on Ebay from Italy the past year, mainly arcade flyers from the early 80's. The only reasonable source I could find was a seller in Italy and each time the flyers arrived in excellent condition and within two weeks.
Mavrk
Active member
Hi rlevin,
thank you very much for the support, I really appreciate it.
Please send a pm to mike so we can work it out
Maybe we have found a solution..
Mav
Really? How cool. I wish I had the info from back then but that was a long time ago. I used to sell games through my friend's eBay account (that was our relationship... he funded deals, I fixed what I could, we sold them and split the profit) .
Nice coincidence Mav.
If I had the cash I would buy the game from Mike and then you and I could work it out.
