Another Fun to Pick on MAME Monstrocity

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Saw this on Facebook, mish mosh artwork, joysticks on the right?!, Diamond plating, looks like it is made from marquees.

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So judging by the right hand side artwork and CPO...Star wars should be the main game....I wonder where the flight yoke is...

I don't get the right hand joysticks,never have I played a game in the wild with a set up like that...there is a reason.
 
You get stuff like that because people who know almost nothing about arcade games often build this stuff and you can't tell them anything because THEY KNOW BETTER.

The arcadecontrols forums are absolutely overrun with people building crap like reverse handed controls all while the informed few try to explain to them why it is a bad idea, however they are usually encouraged in their bad ideas by others who have already made the same mistakes or by those who have never built anything at all.

For those who don't understand why left handed controls are a bad idea it is because a persons primary hand should control the control that requires the most finesse. I play many classic titles with my right hand on the stick and my left hand on the button. However as the number of buttons increases the button hand becomes the one that needs the finesse, which is why later titles generally ditched ambidextrous layouts in favor of left hand stick, right hand buttons. 27 years of console controllers also ingrained that layout as well.

Most of the time the people building these reverse controls are left handed. However it is still a mistake even for them, as left handed people are used to the right handed world, they have far more functionality in their off hand than righties do. A right handed person would have a seriously hard time playing that machine.

Btw. I seriously think the designers of Tron got their control panel layout backwards. They forced an analog control into people's left hands. I think it would have been much better if the spinner and stick were reversed in their positions.
 
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Well if the marquess lit up maybe I wouldn't feel like trashing it but it looks like it was slapped together with whatever was lying around. Oh and it was made for all the left handed people out there. :)
 
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Judging by the black Bally logo on the Ms. Pac marquee, they seem to be repros.

But that sure would make a horribl-I mean great chair! The bootleg SW chair!
 
Repros? Those aren't even actual marquees. Who needs to look at a logo when the Tetris marquee is somehow 3' wide and the Bubble Bobble one is over a foot tall.

Those are assorted paper stickers on the side, not real marquees. They have zero depth and sizing and aspect ratio are way off on most of them.



Judging by the black Bally logo on the Ms. Pac marquee, they seem to be repros.

But that sure would make a horribl-I mean great chair! The bootleg SW chair!
 
Maybe take a step back...

The arcadecontrols forums are absolutely overrun with people building crap

Hmm. As a KLOV lurker I don't usually chime in on these threads, where people bash others' work because their goal might be something other than restoration; it is the internet and I expect douche-baggery on most forums. But I think that there is a lot of creativity and innovation over at BYOAC, and don't see the need to attach that community to a conversation about some cab you found on Facebook. I think of it as a sister forum to KLOV in a way and there is a lot of cross-pollination of info, vendors, etc.

Furthermore, what does it matter to you how this person built their cab? What if they are left-handed? Young? Unexperienced at cab building? Maybe they are totally happy with it, and enjoy it more than you enjoy your games? What makes you the judge of what a "bad choice" or "mistake" is for someone who isn't asking you to critique their cab? You have to understand, most MAME builders will have different tastes than those who restore individual cabs (although many of us at BYOAC do both).

Not trying to start anything here, just know that the reason I lurk here rather than post a lot like I do at BYOAC is the crazy negative vibe here at KLOV- surely it is a barrier for others to the hobby, and not everyone thinks it is fun to pick on people- it makes me damn uncomfortable. My 2 cents.
 
Clearly this thing is worth over a thousand bucks also

I found the arcadecontrols forum before discovering KLOV so I spent a fair amount of time reading threads over there. You joke about this game being "worth" over $1,000 but you would be surprised how many of the scratch builds top $1,000 or creep up to $1,500 on materials alone.

It is insane...and it is wasteful, not to mention many of the cabinets need burned to the ground and built a second time from scratch.

As for the joystick in the player's right hand, I often wondered why the Burgertime cocktail was configured this way...or "backwards".
 
I have done 30, maybe 40 mame/multi cabinets. Been a member of the BYOAC forums since their early days. Saint himself purchased one of my machines, and last I checked he still had it. So, yes I do know a bit about what is and isn't a mistake with them.

I have also seen tons of creativity and innovation at BYOAC. Some of the things people have done there would honestly make some of the best restorations I have seen here look shabby.

However I also see a lot of terrible build mistakes telegraphed many months in advance, but the people building them don't listen to the voices of experience because those voices are drowned out because the average forum member over there is still in the middle of their build or still in the planning stages.

Some of the common mistakes can make these $1000+ projects almost unusable or dangerous, negating all their hard work.

The most common problems include, angled joysticks on 4 player cabinets (crapmame websites fault completely), cabinets that can flip over if you press down hard on the panel, 4 player cabs where the 3rd and 4th player can't see the screen and then a whole subcategory of budgeting mistakes usually headed up with a brand new gaming PC while everything else is scrimped on.



Hmm. As a KLOV lurker I don't usually chime in on these threads, where people bash others' work because their goal might be something other than restoration; it is the internet and I expect douche-baggery on most forums. But I think that there is a lot of creativity and innovation over at BYOAC, and don't see the need to attach that community to a conversation about some cab you found on Facebook. I think of it as a sister forum to KLOV in a way and there is a lot of cross-pollination of info, vendors, etc.

Furthermore, what does it matter to you how this person built their cab? What if they are left-handed? Young? Unexperienced at cab building? Maybe they are totally happy with it, and enjoy it more than you enjoy your games? What makes you the judge of what a "bad choice" or "mistake" is for someone who isn't asking you to critique their cab? You have to understand, most MAME builders will have different tastes than those who restore individual cabs (although many of us at BYOAC do both).

Not trying to start anything here, just know that the reason I lurk here rather than post a lot like I do at BYOAC is the crazy negative vibe here at KLOV- surely it is a barrier for others to the hobby, and not everyone thinks it is fun to pick on people- it makes me damn uncomfortable. My 2 cents.
 
My P-47 JAMMA cabinet has joystick on the right-hand side. Makes a so-so game play terribly. The game was converted during its time at Aladdin's Castle. Since the game began as Two Tigers (dedicated), I can only imagine that they were trying desperately to re-use the top control panel from that game. That, or somebody is just an idiot and cut the joysticks in the wrong spot.
 
Now I'm starting to think about adding a Jump button the right side of my Jr. Pac 70% for righties...
 
An ambidextrous layout is pretty much the norm if the joystick is centered on the panel and since when did Junior Pac-Man have a jump button?

Now I'm starting to think about adding a Jump button the right side of my Jr. Pac 70% for righties...
 
i love that INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH metal front kick plate thingy...

where can i buy sheets of this stuff? i wanna add it to all my cades and pinballs.

I thought my shitty Spy Hunter gas pedal was made of that.. but when I went to replaced it I found it was a diamond plate sticker on a piece of sheet metal!
 
An ambidextrous layout is pretty much the norm if the joystick is centered on the panel and since when did Junior Pac-Man have a jump button?

My video says I will have Pac-Mania and maybe Pac-Land.
My panel isn't final. I can edit the CPO design any time, I'll just have to get new buttons the colors. :)
 
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