1978 Allied Leisure Hearts Spades cocktail pinball

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1978 Allied Leisure Hearts Spades cocktail pinball price check.

Not working, but lights up. All the info I got. About 2 hours from me.

$175.
 
My friend opened up a small arcade in the UP. I've been buying up games I can find for him.
Pinball is probably too high of cost for him, but thought maybe this cocktail one would be a good start.
 
Sounds like a fair price if it's in nice condition (aside from dirt and grime)You can drop a switcher in place of the 5v linear thingy and it will prolly fire right up. I have a thread on byoac about my starshooter that I bought dead and dirty, has good pics of the insides and such. Also make sure it has the extending legs that will raise it to standing mode (playing any cocktail pin while sitting is awful).


good day.
 
1978 Allied Leisure Hearts Spades cocktail pinball price check.

Not working, but lights up. All the info I got. About 2 hours from me.

$175.

I think $450-$550 is kind of the going rate for a fully working Allied Leisure cocktail pin.
Normally these are in really nice condition because they were not successful on location at bars and whatnot due to the awkward nature of their shape. I.E. they are either really nice or the total opposite and trashed. If they are trashed its most likely because they were stored outside or got exposed to something rather than from use. Most of the ones you see for sale seem to be home use only.

I paid $250 for my Roy Clark in very nice non working condition a few month ago. I got lucky in that it was a fairly easy fix.
A few months ago there was a nice working Eros One out here on Craigslist for $550 that was up for about a month with no takers (in retrospect I should have bought it).
These things are not popular and kind of the unwanted bastards of the pinball world.
Personally I think they are really cool and totally unappreciated. I would like to have a couple more of them.

If the game is not working you should be aware of a couple things though.

1) If it has board issues, getting that fixed will most likely cost you more than the game itself. The board uses a really strange size ROMs that are virtually unobtainable. Maybe you will be able to find replacements, maybe you wont and if you do they will be expensive.

2) If you can find an Allied Leisure/Fascination Game board for sale (unlikely, but possible) its going to cost you a few hundred dollars minimum. The boards for these Allied Leisure cocktail pins are universal. I.E. you can use an Eros One board in a Roy Clark or a Hearts and Spades etc. So basically anyone working on fixing one of these is looking for the board.

Do you know whats wrong with it, or is it being sold as simply "not working"?
 
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Not sure what is wrong with it. Just said non working.

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Looks a little rougher than some, but not too bad. Theres a few plastic parts missing and or broken, but not a big deal. A few of the the other plastic parts look pretty yellow and might be pretty brittle from vulcanization and need to be replaced. The plastic parts you can normally find on eBay, or at least they pop up often enough that they are obtainable. Since these are pretty low value machines and sometimes hard to fix the boards they tend to get parted out when people can't or don't want to fix them. There are also people who sell aftermarket parts that will probably work. All of the rubbers will have to be replaced, but they actually make kits for that as well, so no big deal and they are pretty cheap.

Does it say in the ad that it lights up? If so, do you know if the score board and lights work, but the game game isn't registering points. When I got mine, all the lights and the score board would light up but none of the points would register. Fortunately Kris at Firebird Pinball out here http://firebirdpinball.com has an allied leisure board that works to test these machines and was able to troubleshoot my board. Hopefully its not a board issue, but who knows.

If it were me, I would go look at it and at least make an offer. For $175 you have very little downside and you can always make a lower offer. I think these things are really retro cool and totally unappreciated at the present time. They are all really low production numbers and for the most part under 1000 made of each depending on which one, so by nature cocktail pins are pretty rare. Ours is a Roy Clark which is one of the more commonly seen cocktail pins they only made 300. We have our is in our living room being used as a coffee table and I really like it. I don't know how many of this game they made, but it seems to sell less often than some of the others like Roy Clark or Eros One so I would guess pretty low production.

I think worst cast scenario you will probably have to spend a few hundred bucks getting this thing working, cleaned up and replacing rubbers, plastics etc. Hopefully less then that, but who knows.

Not working, but lights up.

Not sure what is wrong with it. Just said non working.
 
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I think $450-$550 is kind of the going rate for a fully working Allied Leisure cocktail pin.
Normally these are in really nice condition because they were not successful on location at bars and whatnot due to the awkward nature of their shape. I.E. they are either really nice or the total opposite and trashed. If they are trashed its most likely because they were stored outside or got exposed to something rather than from use. Most of the ones you see for sale seem to be home use only.

I paid $250 for my Roy Clark in very nice non working condition a few month ago. I got lucky in that it was a fairly easy fix.
A few months ago there was a nice working Eros One out here on Craigslist for $550 that was up for about a month with no takers (in retrospect I should have bought it).
These things are not popular and kind of the unwanted bastards of the pinball world.
Personally I think they are really cool and totally unappreciated. I would like to have a couple more of them.

If the game is not working you should be aware of a couple things though.

1) If it has board issues, getting that fixed will most likely cost you more than the game itself. The board uses a really strange size ROMs that are virtually unobtainable. Maybe you will be able to find replacements, maybe you wont and if you do they will be expensive.

2) If you can find an Allied Leisure/Fascination Game board for sale (unlikely, but possible) its going to cost you a few hundred dollars minimum. The boards for these Allied Leisure cocktail pins are universal. I.E. you can use an Eros One board in a Roy Clark or a Hearts and Spades etc. So basically anyone working on fixing one of these is looking for the board.

Do you know whats wrong with it, or is it being sold as simply "not working"?

Pretty much this. Parts are expensive and there is basically no resale value on them. Without knowing more about the issue id be very hesitant to get into it for very much.
 
Pretty much this. Parts are expensive and there is basically no resale value on them. Without knowing more about the issue id be very hesitant to get into it for very much.
Lame response. Things like this need to be saved. It's only 175 bucks, people spend more on a fancy meal only to shit it out 9 hours later. I saved a similar table from a part out and I enjoy it so much that it's a "no sale" type piece for me.


good day.
 
Lame response. Things like this need to be saved. It's only 175 bucks, people spend more on a fancy meal only to shit it out 9 hours later. I saved a similar table from a part out and I enjoy it so much that it's a "no sale" type piece for me.


good day.

Appreciate the needless hostility. Since this is the price check forum, I was offering an opinion that $175 is too much for a non working, low value, not very fun game that could need anywhere from $1 - $700 worth of parts to be playable, and still not be worth (to most people) what you put into it.

If the OP's question was "I need a project and don't care if the game is good and don't care about having to put money into it" then that's a different story. It's ONLY $175 bucks NOW...until you get it home. I think I'd enjoy a $175 meal more than this broken game and still have all the money I didn't spend on it to get it working to buy something else.

I'm glad you feel the need to "save" games like this, it means that when good games come up for sale there will be less competition in line to buy them.

good day.
 
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